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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-18 04:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #3727 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3727 ⌋

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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-03-18 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I save my favorites too. Any time I bookmark a fic on AO3, I download it at the same time.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-18 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear ya. I *know* I have no right to be pissed, but I am. So, I save them, too.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-18 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate it too and also save all the ones I can. And it's knowing how much some of us hate it that convinces me to leave ALL of my fics up, no matter how awful I consider some of them to be. Because every now and again, fics of mine from a decade ago will still get fav'd on FFN.
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[personal profile] randomdrops 2017-03-18 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Hard same. I get it to some degree, since I have had friends that deleted their fic so I know what was going on behind the scenes. But still. I used to just bookmark, but now I'm trying to get into the habit of actually downloading or saving fic. Which at least if it's on AO3 makes it pretty easy.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-18 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
A+ job, anon. Just remember to get them uploaded somewhere before you eventually shuffle off this mortal coil.
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[personal profile] dahli 2017-03-18 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I learned to save when a fic I really loved got deleted by the author. They also deleted their Ao3 account, their tumblr, etc...
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2017-03-18 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I should do this but I have over 1100 fics bookmared on Ao3 already. :/
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[personal profile] type_wild 2017-03-18 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
When I first got into fandom, it was on the family computer with limited internet time because dial up modems = huge phone bills. But I had an ancient computer in my room, so I saved fic I liked on floppies so that I could read them again without going online.

I guess I just never got out of that habit, and I don't even want to think about how many .txt files I've saved through the years.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2017-03-18 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I do this too, I learned after trying to find fic for some older fandoms several years back to save the stuff I really liked because it might get purged from the internet and I'd be sad that it's gone(and at least in one fandom there was an author who would routinely go through their work and delete fic they didn't like anymore so I had to save that shit fast if I ever wanted to re-read it).

(Anonymous) 2017-03-18 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I learned this lesson after my favorite fanfic writer of all time, ellnyx/pendency purged everything they'd ever written. Still kills me to this day that I never saved anything. Their writing was a huge source of inspiration for my artwork and helped me get through a really rough period of my life.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-18 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Download them and email them to yourself through gmail, it is copy you might be able to have forever. I still have some old Sailor Moon/Ranma fics that the author deleted years ago when they got ashamed of being an animnerd and vanished from the internet. Some of them are very good.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-18 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you organise them anon? By author/fandom/ship? Or are they just in 1 big folder?

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2017-03-18 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, man, i need to do this. There is some amazing stuff out there in the Buffy fandom that's twenty years old, and it could vanish any day.
Thanks for the reminder!

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Apparently I have a lot to say on this topic.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-18 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy crap, OP, I was just (literally as today's secrets got posted) looking at my huge collection of bookmarks for my current fandom and thinking about beginning the task of going through them and seeing which fics have been deleted in the years since I read them. The coincidence of seeing this secret right at the top is killing me.

I completely agree with you. I know it's the author's right to do what they want with their fics. I know they often have personal reasons for taking their stuff down. I know they own me nothing. But it's just really frustrating and saddening when little bits of the fandom keep winking out irretrievably.

I'm not OCD myself, but in addition to really loving a hell of a lot of fanfic, I've also always had a strong curatorial love of fandom. I love the archives, the collections, what author wrote which fics and when. The kinds of fics people were writing during a specific period in the fandom, fics that made a big splash, fics that got in early before any fanon had been established yet, etc, etc. And because this is such a big part of my love for fandom, when people delete their fics, I'm not just sad because I can't read their fic anymore - I'm also sad because a tiny part of the greater fandom context is gone too.

In the 10 years I've been deeply into fandom (as opposed to just dipping my feet in), I've only had two really major fandom loves. The first one was The X-Files fandom, and the funny thing about that fandom is that it taught me really bad habits about saving fics I liked - namely: don't bother, they're not going anywhere. Literally, in the five years I was obsessively into TXF, I don't think there was ever a single fic that I couldn't find somewhere. Because for one thing, back then, people tended to have their fics archived all over the place. Plus the main XF archive was a bitch to get your stuff deleted from. Plus, the Wayback machine works for like 98% of those old URLs. (Can I just say that the X-Files fandom was a thing of beauty? It really was.)

So when I got into my current fandom, I thought I didn't need to bother saving anything. And because I'm slow af, five years later I've only just figured out that HOLY SHIT, everybody DELETESTHEIR SHIT now, and WTF the Wayback machine DOESN'T WORK on any of this stuff!!! (In summary: I feel old, and lol I miss geocities.)

Tangentially, can we talk about how Wayback used to work on AO3, like, last year? And now it doesn't? Who the fuck made that decision?!

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[personal profile] amalthia 2017-03-18 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I save a lot of stories in Calibre too.

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(Anonymous) 2017-03-18 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally understand how you feel, OP. :(

By the way, what's the best way to save fics from Fanfiction.net?

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[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2017-03-19 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
That's why I always orphan and never delete fics!

(Anonymous) 2017-03-19 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
This is the reason why I don't delete fics. Because I know how much it bothers people when it happens. Even if something really shitty has gone down in a fandom (which it has to me a couple of times) it's not enough for me to justify deleting anything.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-19 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I print out the ones that are really important...

(Anonymous) 2017-03-19 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
... you have this stuff backed up in the cloud, right? Because if your computer crashes ...

(Anonymous) 2017-03-19 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, op!!! I really love your none of that matters though line-- YES!

I've been doing this for quite a while.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-19 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
Though not in two different formats, but I do back them up to a different drive.

I have stuff I saved in 2003 (Due South, Highlander, The OC, etc.) that I'm pretty sure doesn't exist on the net anymore.

I think my original reasoning didn't have anything to do with author deletion, I just wanted a copy that I knew where it was and that wasn't in a hard for me to read format or coloring scheme.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-19 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
I've orphaned a few, but knowing that somebody might still love a fic even though I've come to hate it keeps me from actually deleting it.

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(Anonymous) 2017-03-19 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
I don't do this (other than not cleaning out my phone, which means at least two years worth of ao3 epub files) but I'm thankful for people like you. So far every time I've gone looking for something that got deleted I've found someone who saved a copy. Very grateful!

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