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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-20 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3729 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3729 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-03-20 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's also luck, or writing the right thing at the right time. Sometimes it's just consistency. Also writing "well" is a whole bunch of separate skills and some of those matter more to a fannish audience than others...
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[personal profile] randomdrops 2017-03-20 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
True for not only fic and fandom, but Life in general.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-20 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Having a lot of fandom friends does help. So does putting out work regularly. Which sucks if, like me, you are a very slow writer.
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[personal profile] el_regrs 2017-03-21 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ha, same here. I've slowed down horribly in the last few years.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-20 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Another key is also writing for the right parings, tropes and headcanons.

In my current fandom I only happen to ship odd rarepairs, aren't interested in the most beloved tropes and some of my headcanons happen to be the complete contrary of what the popular kids insist is going on in canon.
My most recent fics were also uncommon AUs. So yes, I can relate to the feeling, op.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-20 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
At least in new fandoms, where there's an influx of strangers more-or-less on the same level, I find that more than anything, what really gets a fanbase is writing OFTEN. People are drawn to content. Quality isn't nearly as important, because it's already The Thing They Like, or a thing many people will like, on account of it being fanfiction. But someone who drops a longfic once or twice a year is just not going to get the attention of someone who posts ficlets every week, because people will keep checking back for those and sharing them. "Who you know" is the symptom, not the primary cause. People will GET to know you if you're productive.

(I say this as a rarely-posting-longfic type myself, but I'm pretty reconciled to it.)

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(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
In a new fandom right now and this is very true. There are a few authors who's stuff may not be my exact jam, but they produce enough that I recognize their names and when I see new fic I know I will probably enjoy it.

Sometimes this happens with authors I hate actually. It takes a few tries before I remember they're familiar for a BAD reason.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
The more people you interact with, the more people are going to read your work. But if this is your attitude in general, I can see why people don't want to read your work. You're coming of as a bit of an asshole. Not saying you are, but that's how I'm perceiving you with this secret.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
This is a silly comment. Plenty of people who actually are repeat offender public assholes are popular ficcers. There is little evidence that if one feels resentful (or superior, or judgemental) it always adversely affects one's fandom presence. This is reaching so you can blame this person for their relative failure when we all know quality and success are not interlinked and their pov is justified. 'Karma' doesn't exist even if it's presumably comforting to you that it might. Life is unfair.

/and no, not the OP although I imagine you will want to assume that.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this was my take as well. It just seems really immature to begrudge others their success/popularity or try to diminish their achievements somehow. I mean, attribute other people's popularity and your own lack of popularity to whatever you want, but the bottom line doesn't change. And the bottom line is that there are fic authors who are writing fics that hundreds of people enjoy...and you're not writing fics that hundreds of people enjoy.

I say this as someone who's fics (admittedly few and far between) have never gained any popularity in fandom. I've always gotten a few comments from people who really love how I write, and that's enough to assure me that my fics aren't downright bad. But my fics also aren't what most people want, and it would be petty of me to begrudge that.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think that while knowing the right people can help a mediocre writer get popular, but there are lots of other factors too. Fandom size matters, for one thing (it's easier to get noticed in a fandom with 500 works vs one with 50000) and writing for the pairings and characters that are popular. Also what time you get into fandom, if a fandom's really hurting for goodfic for the popular pairing writing one good fic can sometimes make you pretty popular quickly.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Echoing what other people have said, in my experience it's more a combination of being prolific and being relatively consistent in quality. The popular tropes/pairs thing is variable, I know a couple of people with strong followings who write mostly gen or unusual character interactions. I've also seen people get popular on the strength of one really excellent longfic in a relatively small fandom, though those almost always are for the fan favourite pairing.

Mostly from what I've seen it's a matter of getting in quick and often and giving people a reason to remember your name. Though, admittedly, I don't have a lot of experience with the more social end of fandom. I'm in it almost purely to read/write fic and chat about my favourites.
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[personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n 2017-03-21 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
True story: a fic I was writing in 2008 suddenly gained me lots of followers and lesser BNF status very suddenly, overnight. I had random people messaging me out of the blue that my fic had caused them to ship a pairing that they never would have even considered before. I'd started it completely off the cuff as a response fic to another fic in our community, based on a dream I'd had the week before.

I'd always wondered what it would be like to be a popular writer in any fandom - and when it did happen, it was incredibly stressful. I basically had a minor nervous breakdown and backed away from the fic. To this day, I still haven't finished it. I know "be careful what you wish for" is cliche, but yeah.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I have no problem praising writers I enjoy who are more popular than me. What grates me is the awful badfic that gets recced over and over and praised when I think the author is horribly untalented.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
THIS!
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[personal profile] snarky_silvan 2017-03-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I so totally agree. I share your jealousy. I'm a published non-fiction writer, and my fiction got very little attention for a very long time.

The thing is that BNF status can happen completely on accident. I had one story recc'd by a tumblr community and suddenly it had 1000 likes overnight. It's pure, stupid, dumb luck.

It's stupid and shallow, but it still made me happy. No other fic I've written has ever gotten as many likes.