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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-20 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3729 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3729 ⌋

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Secret OP

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
"Not for the same reason as OP of course. I don't really think smut has to be in character it's just for fun and self-indulgent most of the time, a lot of canons don't really get into a characters sex life so fanfic writers have free reign. "

I guess I like my smut to be relatively in-character. I know most canons don't get explicitly into character's sex lives, but there's often some reasonable hints regarding the sexuality of characters and their general personalities, and wildly deviating from that just makes me twitch a bit. If you want to wildly deviate, at least tag it instead of expecting that everybody wants to read an explicit four paragraph flashback about how their fandom fave who is straight in canon got picked up by two guys in a bar and had his gay cherry popped in hours of wild mano a mano a mano sex.

"I also have no problem shipping canon hetero characters in same sex relationships because the amount of actual gay and lesbian characters is... not much."

See my other comments about this. I ship canon hetero characters in same gender relationships but I also try to respect the fact that in canon up to that point at least, they've been heterosexual. Part of writing them getting together with another same gender character is them discovering themselves in my opinion. I dislike the "oh they've always been gay/bi" thing because 99% of the time it doesn't seem to fit the character, and it seems more like a lazy writing tool than an actual legitimate narrative choice because I constantly see it employed in situations where it's like:

Girl One: "Oh great we now know we have complicated feelings for one another, but...are you sure you want to have sex with me? I'm a little confused about all this myself but I know I want to have sex with you, but you've always been...pretty vocal about being into guys."

Girl Two: "Pfft naaaah I've secretly always been into chicks. Let the pussy eating commence!"

"Whoa I was close to submitting a secret that said I didn't like that my favorite character was the fandom bicycle. "

I'll admit I'm a little confused now though, why don't you like your favourite characters being the fandom bicycle? You didn't really give a reason and now I'm curious!

Re: Secret OP

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Man, I am completely with you. Smut for me needs to be in character. If it's not, then I can't handle it, and that absolutely includes sexuality.

It's why I can't abide 99% of smut.

Secret OP again!

(Anonymous) 2017-03-21 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. It's why I find all of this so frustrating. And like I said to another (particularly snarky) anon, I would love to be able to do the "don't like, don't read" thing, but people don't tag for this shit barely EVER, so I'll be halfway into a story and then suddenly that canon straight lady is recalling her her days of feverishly eating women out and it's like....whuuut?

Like I said, I am totally fine with broadening a character's canon sexuality within the narrative of fiction, I just want it done reasonably in-character, and that means if a guy has said he's not attracted to men you at least somewhat respect that and work with it. Explore how and why that's changed because of the character you're shipping them with. Explore the complicated feelings, the all-too-common shame that can come with questioning yourself, the newness of the attraction, etc. Don't just go "nah I totes love sucking dick I was just lying about being straight".

Without fail it's because the author has a kink for seeing the character riding all the dicks (I have never to this day read a "secretly bi" male character who was portrayed as a top), or because they're being lazy and don't want to actually write the transition from straight to bi or straight to "with exceptions", so they just pull an offhand retcon of the character's canon sexuality.