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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-15 07:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #3785 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3785 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-05-15 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't speak to all of this, but your fanmixes probably go unshared because they long as fuck. Take a cue from the popular mixes and do more manageable nuggets.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a day late and a dollar short, but I'm 100% positive that by "unshared" OP meant they themselves leave the mixes they make unpublished for consumption because they're "neurotic & afraid of not fitting in."

(Anonymous) 2017-05-15 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Enh. This feels like the fandom equivalent of "not like the other girls". Maybe your mix isn't being shared because people don't like it, plain and simple. People have different tastes in music; maybe your taste just doesn't align with theirs.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-15 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
^ ETA: Sorry, didn't notice the "unshared" bit.

Still think this smacks of some music elitism, though.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-15 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
They're hardly presenting themselves as superior to the "other girls" with popular fanmixes. They seem to be putting themselves down, actually.

Regardless, I would guess that they're aware that their taste in music may differ from most fans, since that's one of the reasons they list for being insecure about their fanmixes... Unless it's "music elitism" now to acknowledge that popular music is popular.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhh... they're not being super nasty about it, but the "not like other girls" thing is there.

Other fans: "Same five Top 40 songs on every mix"
OP: "Eclectic 2hr mixes that take characters' tastes into account where possible"

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
If you want to interpret any complaint about unpopular things being overlooked as actually being a complaint about Other Girls, sure.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
OP is very clearly implying that other mixes aren't as thoughtful or as long as hers, nor are they chosen according to characters' tastes, so it's not solely a question about popular vs. unpopular. The fact that it contrasts an "other girl" fan who for some reason dresses like a schoolgirl from the 1960s or a vintage clothing aficionado vs. the OP, who wears a baggy t-shirt and pants - not an unusual choice in fandom or IRL, I assure you - also carries that hint of "not like other girls".

Perhaps OP didn't mean it that way, but I can definitely see where other users are seeing it.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Haven't posted ITT but I definitely interpreted it this way as well, FWIW

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is how it came across to me as well.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:41 am (UTC)(link)

I get where you're coming from, but I really think that's interpreting the secret in bad faith. I get really sick of people using "oh, you think you're not like the other girls" as a way to dismiss anyone who says anything that even vaguely criticizes something that's trendy. The secret is so self-deprecating that it frustrates me to see people calling OP smug, elitist, or pretentious, or saying that they have nothing to contribute that would be missed, when their secret is such a sad and common one.

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(Anonymous) 2017-05-15 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the reason why songs are in the Top 40 is because they're popular. "Eclectic" songs are probably going to have a slightly narrower appeal, especially if you choose more obscure tracks. You pride yourself on not being all mainstream (and if I'm honest, it's difficult not to roll my eyes at this part) but at the same time, you're unhappy that the majority of fandom doesn't share your taste in music and that you don't "fit in". Those are two conflicting issues, wanting to be popular yet eschewing popular tastes. I wish you luck in resolving them.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-15 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound insufferably pretentious and I doubt fandom is missing anything from not hearing your "better because it's not popular!" mixes.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I get you, OP. Ot's frustrating to put out something you took a lot of effort with and have it be ignored.

But I think the solution is right there, too. Others are having fun. If you're not having fun, stop.

(And if you can't, it might be time to ask yourself if you're doing it to make yourself miserable. Which is a A Thing I also understand, OP.)


(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I get what you mean. Back in the day, I made many fanmixes that I basically only shared with my irl friends (who weren't usually in the same fandoms and didn't care). I was too scared to share them widely because I couldn't Photoshop to save my life so my covers always looked terrible.

Be braver than I was, OP. Post your fanmixes.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
You should post them anyway. The worst response you'll get is silence.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
The one on the right looks just like a cartoon version of a lady I know.

Other than that, I got nothing.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I would start by making your fanmixes shorter. There's literally nothing stopping you from making a fanmix that's 30-40 minutes instead of 2 hours.

And if you really, really care about getting more people to listen to your fanmixes, I'd say pick a couple of more popular tracks that you don't hate and include them along with your other more eclectic choices.

In my experience, there are two things that are most likely to get people to give your mix a try: the first one is cool cover art, and the second is seeing at least one track they know and like on the lineup.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
OP, you should share your mixes. Shorter might make them more manageable, but share them if they're long as well. People in the fan mix community appreciate diversity! I can remember also being six of seeing the same, sometimes awful songs in fan mixes again and again (Harry/Draco fandom and your completely un-ironic, repeated use 'Bring Me To Life' despite the existence of 'My Immortal', I'm looking at you).

However, it might be good to get some perspective as well, because people also make fan mixes differently. Some try to pick songs that fit the general tone of the show while also touching on emotional notes - Psych fandom has some particularly amazing, super fun mixes like this. Other people - like you it sounds like - don't care if the overall mix is cohesive, and are more focused on the appropriateness of each individual song. And other people, like you allude to, throw together a bunch of popular songs that could vaguely be related to the emotional struggles of characters in the shows (though some of those can be fun too). It's all part of the fun of discovering new music and seeing different takes on your favourite characters.

Some people aren't going to like your mixes, or understand where you're coming from. But that's okay. Just post your mixes!
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[personal profile] raspberryrain 2017-05-16 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
This secret needs a fanmix. "You Belong with Me," is definitely on there.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Look, I might actually get the underlying frustration with fanmixes that don't actually seem like they have anything to do with the fandom/ship/etc. they're supposed to be related to but the insufferable elitist music hipster is strong with this one. "Eclectic" ... seriously? This actually sound like instead of using popular songs, youre just picking out the nost obscure songs you can find that maybe vaguely fit just to feel all special and superior.
(Tbh, you sound like one of those people who drop a band as soon as it gets more popular.)

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't listen to many fanmixes anymore, but back when I did I much preferred the ones that fit the tone of the fandom/character/pairing. So if it was for Pirates of the Caribbean, eg, the best mixes (imo) were the ones that were part folk, part classical, part film score, etc.

I'd be more forgiving of top 40 music in a mix for a fandom where the characters might actually listen to that.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-17 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
When did fanmixes become "stuff that the characters might listen to"? I'm honestly curious, because all of the fanmixes that my friends and I have made over the years have been stuff where the lyrics fit the character/canon in question. I'd put a hard rock song on a mix for a character from a high fantasy canon if I felt that the lyrics of the song really fit that character.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-16 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry your fanmixes don't get a lot of shares, OP, but your comic is cute