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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-07-14 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3845 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3845 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[linked on OP's request; (illustrated) depictions of violence and torture]


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[dance, So You Think You Can Dance, Dancing with the Stars, World of Dance]


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(Anonymous) 2017-07-14 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That the family really was bewitched and that it was in fact a witching completely true to 17th century ideas of witchcraft. And that Thomasin chose to sell her soul at the end to Black Philip, who really was the Devil.

There are so many theories online that the whole movie is Thomasin losing her mind in the wilderness and just killing her whole family. That every witch thing is a delusion and so forth. And props to the filmmakers for one very cool incredibly esoteric clue -- the corn is ruined by ergot, which is a theory (albeit a fairly weaksauce one) some people have about the afflicted girls in the real-life Salem witch trials -- that their afflictions were brought on by ergot poisoning, which supposedly can cause hallucinations in large quantities.

But I don't see Thomasin eating the poisoned corn or even be the one in the family most likely to snap and murder everyone. So yeah, I like it best when it is in fact an actual witching, accurate to period literature.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-14 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Gotcha, thanks! I'll have to watch this movie, it sounds interesting.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-15 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
That's an interesting theory! I have so much love for this movie it's unreal. It topped anything ekse I saw that year in terms of atmosphere and acting. I passed it to my dad who's a fellow horror fanatic and was really disappointed when he just found it dull.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-15 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
People did eat ergotized grain if there was nothing else available. There was a kind of brinksmanship involved: if you had a choice between losing a limb to gangrenous ergotism or starving, you might eat the ergotized bread and take the risk. Similarly, if you could get hold of non-infested grain and get the proportions of ergotized to clean grain just right, you might get away with a few hallucinations. It's been suggested that the French peasants of tho Sologne, where rye was a staple and ergotism was endemic, were practiced at this. On the other hand, as you say, Linda Caporael's theory that ergotism was responsible for the Salem witch panic has been more or less exploded.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-15 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I hate the ergot theory for Salem because it discounts absolutely everything else that was going on societally in the village.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-15 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's horribly reductive. And then Mary Matossian took it and ran with it and blamed practically everything from the Jacquerie to the Great Awakening on ergot.