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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-07-15 03:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #3846 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3846 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-07-15 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
You do realize that 1960 The Magnificent Seven was based off Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai, right? Funny how nobody decided to not make Magnificent Seven just because it was the same plot, only with white guys in a western.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-15 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)

What does that have to do with anything? That's an AU, not only a race swap. It's more significant that the time period and location changed, not what race the characters were.

If anon means turning Indiana Jones into a woman and then having her be set in modern day, that's a whole AU re-imagining and far more than her gender changes. That's not what a mere genderswap is.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-15 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't realize that merely having a different setting with more or less the same plot was creative enough by your standards. Now I think I understand what you mean, but I'm still puzzled because OP's Indiana Jones idea sounds like it meets that standard and the secret specifically mentions "additional creativity" per your comment, but you're still taking issue with it.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-15 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)

I mentioned nothing of creativity standards, don't know where you're coming from with that.

However, if you're going to take anon saying "additional creativity is needed" to mean "we should change this person's gender but then also add creativity like a different time period, setting, and totally different cultural context from which to interpret the story" then call that "a genderswap" you've added so much that it's not accurate to call it simply a gender swap any more. That is more of a total AU.

original anon

(Anonymous) 2017-07-16 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
See, a female Indiana Jones set in modern times is something I would totally watch because that's different enough to make it new and interesting, but you're also right in that would make it into an AU rather than just a genderswap.

For me, the interest in AUs or any sort of swap is in how they differ from the original story, meaning that there has to be a fairly significant level of change to interest me. Something like Magnificent Seven fits that bill because it's set in a different time period AND in a different country. Likewise, I wouldn't be interested in something like, say, black Rapunzel, where the only change to the story is that she's black. But set it in Africa and adapt the story to incorporate African culture and mythological imagery? Heck yeah, I'd be interested in that.