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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-07-16 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #3847 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3847 ⌋

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[Saturday Night Live]


[Toby Stephens, Black Sails]


[Disney's Pocahontas]




[Sherlock Christmas special]


[Billie Lourd and Taylor Lautner]


[Patton Oswalt and actress Meredith Salenger]


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[personal profile] fscom 2017-07-16 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[Saturday Night Live]

(Anonymous) 2017-07-16 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really watch SNL much, but the clips I've seen them in have been pretty funny. Can't say I ship them, but can say I probably don't hate them.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-16 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
People dislike them because they're not very funny. Especially Colin Jost. Who also has said some very stupid things on other platforms. And who generally comes across as the incarnation of some bland untalented white dude who gets an extremely prominent job for no real reason.

Michael Che seems pretty alright, and of course you're going to ship what you're going to ship. Don't care for Jost at all.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-17 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
"People dislike them because they're not very funny."

That's a matter of opinion. I think they're the funniest part of SNL (and that usually, most of the rest of the show is unfunny and stupid) and every single person I know in RL that watches the show agrees. It's only online that I've seen people say they're not funny or that they dislike them. Which is fine, people are allowed to like/dislike whoever and whatever they want, but not everyone agrees that they're not funny.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
All that I said was that was the reason people dislike them.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-17 01:02 am (UTC)(link)

Ah, okay. I assumed from the wording in the secret ("hostility") that it must've been something more than just thinking they're not funny.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2017-07-16 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
RPS is no crime.
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[personal profile] raspberryrain 2017-07-16 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Colin Jost seems to be a pretty good successor to Tina Fey. Michael Che is a pretty, pretty man, and it's been better to have him there than to give Cecily Strong even more to do.
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[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2017-07-17 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Because Michael Che is a major douche bag. He's super antagonistic on Twitter and makes misogynistic comments on Twitter and the show all the time.

Colin is the best though.

And are people still saying RPF is bad? Really?

(Anonymous) 2017-07-17 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, man, that's disappointing. I liked them both, but didn't know anything about them outside of the show. (I'm also amused that someone above is saying the exact opposite of you, as far as who says bad things, and who's okay.)

What has he said that's misogynistic on the show (and on Twitter, for that matter)? I can't think of anything, but I haven't seen every episode so it's entirely possible I missed it.

Re: Here are just a few examples

(Anonymous) 2017-07-17 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so I'm still not seeing anything too horrible?

In that first article you linked, women were saying he was a dick to them on a dating app, but the only examples given were some sarcastic comments, which are a far cry from misogyny, IMO. (Unless calling someone "white lady" is misogynistic? If anything, I'd say it's more racist than misogynistic, and I don't even agree that it's that.) Plus it's just comments from random people on a gossip site, who even knows if they're true.

The second one says "he makes misogynistic comments on social media" but doesn't give any examples of them (although to be fair, maybe there's more explanation in the video on that page, which wouldn't load for me), and links to an article about Colin's "transphobic" joke, which I don't actually think is transphobic, either.

And the third one was a 404.

Even doing some googling, I didn't find anything where my reaction was anything worse than "okay, the dude's kind of a dick", which, hell, that's something I've thought about pretty much every guy I know at one point or another. (Which in itself is not a great thing, obviously, but he just doesn't seem to stand out as particularly awful.)
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Re: Here are just a few examples

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2017-07-17 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder why the third link didn't work. Did you not read the street harassment article I linked?

Edit: Oh, that was the third link. Here:
Edited 2017-07-17 01:32 (UTC)

Re: Here are just a few examples

(Anonymous) 2017-07-17 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, yeah, that's dickish, but his overall behavior is really no different than any guy I know, so it didn't stand out to me as particularly awful, at least not any moreso than any other guy out there. Not that I'm trying to say it's okay, because it's not, but it's just not all that out of the ordinary, I guess. At this point I'm just like, yeah, he's a guy, that's how guys are (especially rich, famous guys). They'll never understand what it's like to be a woman, that's just the way it is. And maybe I'm wrong and going too easy on them, but these days it's just like...okay, a dude is being a dick, what else is new? It just doesn't even surprise me anymore.
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Re: Here are just a few examples

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2017-07-17 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Just because his behavior seems on par to you doesn't make it okay. It just means shitty behavior is dismissed because it's pervasive. Just because a bunch of people are dicks doesn't make it alright. "That's just the way it is" because everyone turns a blind eye like your comment suggests you're also doing.
Edited 2017-07-17 01:47 (UTC)

Re: Here are just a few examples

(Anonymous) 2017-07-17 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
No, you're right. It's not okay, and I'm not trying to excuse it, I'm just not sure how to change it.

Also, when I said it wasn't that bad, it was based on the couple mildly dickish things I saw before, which didn't seem like that big a deal. Apparently I didn't search hard enough, though, because I didn't see this stuff, and...I take it back. That's not just mildly jerkish behavior, it definitely fits "major douchebag" territory, and it definitely is much worse than what was I thinking.
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Re: Here are just a few examples

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2017-07-17 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry to have been the bearer of bad news. :/

Idk why people don't like Colin though. I think it's just because he's another white guy on the show.