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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-04 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #3897 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3897 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-04 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that this is the case anyway, but if my boss were famous (if cult famous more than widely famous), and I liked the industry I worked for, there's no way I'd say anything more than "yep, Bossperson is a wonderful, inspiring woman to work for."

Also, apparently if you read between the lines - or even if you don't - some cast members have alluded to things not being so great. I read one transcript with Charisma Carpenter, and she's obviously trying very hard to be tactful.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-04 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, she killed her career by hiding her pregnancy when she was on Angel. The issue wasn't that she was pregnant, it was that she didn't tell anyone and the whole production team had to scramble to accommodate her when she finally did tell them that in a few weeks she was going to take several months of maternity leave. I love her to pieces but that is just wrong in any workplace and particularly poor form for an actor in a starring role. She actually seems to understand that now but she was obviously very bitter for a long time and specifically blamed Joss.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-05 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't Marti in charge of Angel at the time? I thought Joss was focusing more on getting Firefly off the ground.
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[personal profile] liz_marcs 2017-09-05 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. Marti had nothing to do with the last two seasons of "Angel," because she was heavily involved with "Buffy" as executive producer and showrunner in seasons six (and seven.

Joss stepped up his involvement during S4 and S5 "Angel" because David Greenwalt left at the end of S3.

"Firefly," S4 "Angel," and S7 "Buffy" were all concurrent, which meant that Joss had to let oversight on one of the series slides.

Since everyone knew S7 was "Buffy"'s last season, Joss pretty much left Marti run the day-to-day on Buffy while providing input on major storylines/plot-twists. His primary focus was on "Firefly," but his secondary focus was on "Angel" because that was still an on-going concern and wasn't in danger of being cancelled.

I remember all of the above because I remember people in "Buffy" fandom bitched about how Joss was abandoning "the show that made him" in favor of his shiny new toys.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-05 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, okay, her hiding the pregnancy puts a whole other light on that situation...

(Anonymous) 2017-09-05 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
I believe this is the first time I ever heard anyone say she hid the pregnancy. Not saying you're wrong, but do you have links?

Regardless, IMO, a person is not obligated to tell their employer they're pregnant at any particular time, especially if early in the pregnancy. (Her pregnancy was quite obvious too, so I assume you mean this was before she was showing). In fact, most people frown upon telling anyone early on. The employer is still required, legally in most places, to make appropriate accommodations and not punish the person for it.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-05 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
a person is not obligated to tell their employer they're pregnant at any particular time

I don't know about America, but where I live a person is legally obligated to tell their employer they are pregnant in the first 12-16 weeks of pregnancy. But of course here, once the employer knows of the pregnancy they can't fire her anymore.
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[personal profile] liz_marcs 2017-09-05 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
In the U.S., pregnant women are NOT obligated to tell their current employer or future employer (if they're job hunting) that they are pregnant, and employers and potential employers are forbidden to ask if a woman is pregnant or planning to become pregnant.

The reason for this is because pregnant women have almost no protection in the workplace. Even though it's technically illegal to fire a woman because she's pregnant, and employers are required to make "reasonable" accommodations for pregnant women, the fact is employers get around this shit all the time and pregnant women have suddenly found themselves "laid off due to restructuring" OR fired because they suddenly become "bad employees."
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[personal profile] liz_marcs 2017-09-05 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeeeaaahhhh. This is the first time I've heard "she hid her pregnancy," and this is a story that's been out there for years.

The other thing that makes me doubt this is that Charisma wasn't even showing when they changed Cordelia's storyline. She gave birth right around episode 17/18 in a 22-episode season. And she was back in episode 20. Playing a comatose Cordelia, true, but that was only a couple of weeks after she gave birth.