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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-06 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3899 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3899 ⌋

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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-09-07 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
To go down the list:

1. Robert: Actually has a face, assuming the additional-media reveal (which would have come after Dream Daddy was in production), different face, different beard, and a biker jacket is neither body armor nor trenchcoat and has a radically different set of meanings, which you know, kinda matters for gay/bi people into that sort of thing.

2. Damien: No beard, different ethnicity, different hair, different subculture, which, you know, kinda matters for gay/bi goths.

3. Craig: Has a face. Are we really at the point where characters look alike just on the basis of vague ethnicity? Is Craig even of Japanese ancestry? Also, not a ninja, which, you know, kinda matters for gay/bi men into fitness culture.

4. Joseph: I'll give that largely because "young Soldier 76" is such a stupid character design. Still though, how do you go from "professional soldier" to "smug, preppy stepford husband who washed out of the coast guard or navy." Those cultural signifiers kinda matter...

5. Mat: Yes, because all people with dreds look alike, even when they're styled completely differently. Oh, and Mat's tattoo sleeve extends past his wrist and is a paisley/floral design unlike Lucio's tribal ink. And again, Mat's middle-aged hipster signifiers kinda matter...

6. Hugo: Not. A. Gorilla. And, you know those academic signifiers kinda matter...

7. Brian: Wrong beard. Wrong beard color. Wrong type of bear. A difference which, you know, kinda matters if you're a bear or bear hunter (broadly defined).

That's not to say that Dream Daddy isn't derivative in its typecasting, but I think the connections between it and Blizzard's superhero narrative are pretty thin.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-07 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
so can you clarify: are you not going with the vague "they sorta-kinda map vaguely to Overwatch dudes" or are you zoomed in on the details? Or are you giving some critique of DD?
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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-09-07 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of annoying how far people here stretch to avoid the obvious interpretation that the Dads are stereotypes of urban gay subcultures (rough, goth, bro, conservative, hipster, geek, and bear) with a multi-ethnic twist. The alternative interpretation is to shoehorn Dream Daddy into Overwatch or yaoi, which have completely different stereotypes going on. For a space that's supposedly into awareness of tropes, there's a lot of missing the obvious going on.

EDIT: I agree with another poster that it's an awful lot of "people with the same skin tone look alike." It's the only thing that Hugo and McCree have in common in terms of design.
Edited (verb verb, I need a verb) 2017-09-07 02:46 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2017-09-07 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
No one compared McCree to anyone?
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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-09-07 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It's in fanart previously linked in the thread.
Edited 2017-09-07 12:29 (UTC)