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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-29 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2339 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2339 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-29 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Never seen this episode, but he didn't tell her he'd never had sex with a humanoid woman before?

Erm... you know that sounds an awful lot like rape by deception, right?

I used to like odo, but that's... that's not cool :/

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-29 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait. By not disclosing his virginity with regards to humanoids... he's raping her? How does that track? :: genuinely confused by that train of thought ::

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
He's keeping important sexual information from his lover.
It's sort of his duty to make sure to disclose that sort of stuff to his partner before engaging in intercourse
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[personal profile] lynx 2013-05-30 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow, WTF, Anon. O_O

I'm. I'm too boggled by this to even articulate something coherent. Just. How is that anyone's duty? Wow.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
The absence of all relevant information, means that informed consent cannot be given. The absence of consent is rape, the absence of informed consent is rape by deception.

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-05-29 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, what? How is that rape by deception? How are you raping someone by not disclosing you're a virgin, or just not disclosing all info about previous sexual partners? Sorry but this comment baffles me.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
It's his duty to make sure the woman KNOWS what she's getting into before she can give informed consent. by hiding this fact, she can't give that consent. Absence of consent = Rape

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
SA
sorry if that seems snarky. not meaning to be an ass.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-05-30 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
That's insane. This is what happens when tumblr activism seeps into real life. It's completely out of touch with how people actually have sex in the real world. Good luck, OP, because according to your definition you'll probably get raped by everyone you're in a relationship with. People who share their entire sexual history with you before having sex are more often the exception than the rule.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Look, I like you kallanda, I respect what I've seen of you in this community, so please don't take this badly when I say this, but "It's completely out of touch with how people actually have sex in the real world" is word for word what the misogynists rape apologists say whenever issues of this type come up.

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(frozen comment) Pssst... it's a troll.

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(frozen comment) Re: Pssst... it's a troll.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Not immediately disclosing your entire sexual history (or lack thereof) is rape?

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Rape by deception. The woman has the right to know what she's getting into, and the male has the duty to disclose this information beforehand. This isn't new people.

(frozen comment) Go home butthurt SJW

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Both parties are consenting.

After the sex, they talked. She said he was amazing. He said it was his first time BEING WITH A HUMANOID. He did mention having Changeling sex via the Link, an experience SOME MIGHT CONSIDER SEXUAL. Their exchange went like this.

ARISSA
Wait a minute... are you saying
you've never been with anyone
before?

ODO
Not a humanoid. Once, on my
homeworld, I had an experience
that you might consider sexual.

ARISSA
But you've never been with a woman
before?

ODO
Could you tell?

ARISSA
No.

ODO
(smiles)
Good.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-05-30 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
After the sex

That is the crux of the matter, for me. When it's too late for her to do anything about the rape that has just occurred.

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(frozen comment) No no no

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(frozen comment) Only responding for the funny realization.

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(frozen comment) but noodly

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(frozen comment) Actually, come to think of it...

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I could see if this was in a situation where there was a chance that someone could be carrying an STD, but that probably isn't the case here.

If I had sex with a guy without telling him I'd never had sex before, (as long as he consented) it wouldn't be rape.

He might not even know the difference and not even find out unless I told him. Knowing EVERY SINGLE TINY DETAIL about one's sexual history isn't necessary for consent. It's not like she's consenting, but he hasn't disclosed that he has AIDS or anything.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
When I had sex with my boyfriend for the first time I was slightly nervous about the whole thing because I had been raped previously when I was younger and I hadn't told him about it at that point in time (though I later did). Did I rape my boyfriend because I didn't disclose this information and he had the right to know what he was getting into before having sex with a rape victim?

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(frozen comment) No.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I've been raped and I've had consensual sex. I did not tell one of my partners I'd been raped and by your reasoning, this means I turn raped him. I AM NOT A FUCKING RAPIST. You really need to learn what rape is. I'm sure you think you're doing a good thing here and speaking out against rape but YOU ARE NOT. You are trivializing REAL RAPE and you need to fucking stop right now.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I find it interesting that you say "woman" and "male." Should not the corresponding term to woman be man? Isn't that dehumanizing, or does that argument only apply when a woman is referred to as "a female"?
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[personal profile] lex_antonia 2013-05-30 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I once didn't tell a boy I slept with that I'm bisexual.

Am I a rapist?

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think so, no.

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(frozen comment) Tumblr SJW blogs

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insanenoodlyguy: (Awesomeface)

(frozen comment) 9/10

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-05-30 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh you're goooooodddd.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'd give them a 10/10. I mean, they've actually called at least two rape victims in the community rapists. Has anything here ever surpassed that? (and if the answer is yes, please send me links because I love me some artful trolling!)
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(frozen comment) 10/10

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-05-30 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh damn, I missed that! I had an old window up and didn't read everything when I posted that!

I bow to your judgement anon. A full 10/10 for this one.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-30 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I like how they haven't responded to either of those comments.

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