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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-30 06:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2432 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2432 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Leverage]


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[Dragon Ball Z]


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[John Cusack, Say Anything]


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06.
[Arrested Development]


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[Star Wars]


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[Easy A]


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[Star Trek]


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10. http://i.imgur.com/XrNzg6P.jpg
[link for porny art, illustrated]


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11. [SPOILERS for Twin Peaks]



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12. [SPOILERS for dangan ronpa, fire emblem awakening, pokemon special, and gatchaman crowds]



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13. [SPOILERS for Shingeki no Kyojin/Attack on Titan]



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14. [WARNING for abuse/incest/non-con]



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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] fscom 2013-08-30 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
14. [WARNING for abuse/incest/non-con]
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(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone who tells you that you're a horrible person because they can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality is a shithead. I'm sorry you've experienced that, OP.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-02 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
THIS THIS THIS

(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
some kinks should just not be talked about. Sorry if you think people are shaming you but...yeah. i don't understand why people think it is suddenly normal to tell everyone all your weird sexual fantasies.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I pretty much only talk about that stuff with my BFF, whose kinks are way more extreme than mine anyway.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
We're talking fandom here, not casual convo on your local street corner. Fandom used to be a relatively safe space for kink. Your Kink Is Not My Kink And That's Okay. (Really, it is okay.)

Bashing people in fandom for their kinks is low and rude and snotty and unkind, especially when those people know that enjoying a kink fictionally is completely different from tolerating abuse in real life.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
some people should just not try to censor others. Sorry if you think people's kinks are weird but...yeah. i don't understand why people can't leave other people alone and let them talk about whatever they want

I mean are you kidding me? You think people should not talk about things they like because YOU think they're weird? What other things should people not talk about? Please. I want to hear all the lovely things you want to censor.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Context is everything. You don't bring up your sexual fantasies in the middle of dinner out with your friends, but if you're, say, on a fandom kinkmeme? Or writing fanfic/creating fanart? In appropriate places and with the right warnings in place, why should some kinks be forbidden to mention when others are not?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This. If you want to enjoy those fantasies harmlessly amongst like-minded fans, that's fine. But you have to remember they're considered 'weird' for a reason. They can be upsetting and triggering for many people, and don't those people also deserve to have safe fandom spaces?

Fandom is not just for the ultra-vanilla, but it's also not just for the ultra-kinky. There are some places where anything goes, and other places where you have to consider what's appropriate. If you can't tell the difference, or simply don't care, then you will probably make people uncomfortable, and some of them will probably react to that by 'shaming'. That's just how it goes.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
How about being a bit more selective about where you open up? It's like TMI in RL: creepy from strangers, but can make bonds stronger when shared with friends, even friends who don't share your kinks.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, I agree with this :( fandom is such an unsafe space now, it's probably better to be selective about where you say things. Not that any of it's okay - and I'm all for educating the ignorant among us - but until we get to that point creating our own safe spaces seems to be the way to go.

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warning for abuse, incest, non-consent

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-08-30 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
warning for abuse, incest, non-consent

[Picture is red text on a white blank background.]

I have a lot of gross fandom interests. Gory fanart, non-con fanfic, abusive incest ships, the list goes on. I wouldn't push that stuff on others, and I'd never approve of any of it in reality.

I never hid those kinks, exactly, but I keep them a total secret now. I got tired of people expressing they thought I was a horrible person. That I was contributing to real life suffering. That I ought to just die.

I'd be a different person if I could be, but I'm not. I wish fandom didn't make me hate myself.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
agree with above commentors.

Chose your spaces.

Try kink_bingo or associated comms like KB_cafe.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Hang in there, anon. You like what you like, it's the way that you're wired, and people who make you feel ashamed for that are the creeps, not you. No one's getting hurt; it's fandom, it's a fantasy. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Although I don't think you're a horrible person because you don't act on any of it, I do think actual child molesters say/wish the same thing.

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[personal profile] nailtek 2013-08-30 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
as someone who has a fair few weird/extreme kinks and often sees people talking about how awful they are, i totally get this feeling. but i also am leaning toward agreeing with some of the anons, there is very much a time and place for discussing them. there is a big difference between putting your kink list on IDK, a tumblr about me page, compared to talking about it on a tmi/nsfw personal blog, or a f-list profile. (not saying you do this OP, but i see it quite a bit)
that said, kink shaming (oh how i dislike that term so) is garbage, there's never any reason to tell someone to die because they enjoy something occurring completely in fiction. i hope that you can find a place you will feel comfortable talking about what you enjoy, OP. i'm sure there's probably somewhere you can, even as an anon. sometimes it's better to vent kink things anon as opposed to not at all.
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PSA

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-08-30 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom is NOT a safe place. Tumblr is NOT a safe place. Tags are NOT a safe place. People will tell you they are. These people are liars.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of people who rec kinks do the rest of the fandom a favor. They open the door so other won't be embarrassed to read that stuff.
starphotographs: I like him. He kind of looks and acts like one of my characters. (I did not know this when I started liking him!) (Victor (...>:|))

[personal profile] starphotographs 2013-08-31 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I like gross things. Always have! And I like talking about gross things with like-minded people. So I kind of hate this new fandom trend where people go around saying that you need to be careful of what you say, because if you mention something disturbing, and someone who didn't want to read it runs in to it without fair warning, you will TRIGGER THEM HORRIBLY and RUIN THEIR WEEK and BRING BLIGHT AND POX UPON OUR FAIR LANDS.

I dunno. Since when do you write or talk about something with people who are appalled by it in mind? They aren't the intended audience.

You obviously aren't interested in this stuff just to cheese people off, and hence, you have nothing to apologize for. Shine on, you crazy creepy diamond!

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
this is precisely why i have stopped giving a shit about people screaming and crying about "triggers." you want a safe space? stay in the places where warning labels are required. don't go barging into the places for people who want to write or talk about kinky things. they have just as much right to have their sandbox as you do.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Teling you to just die = not okay
Telling you you are a horrible person = an opinion, allthough a very hurtful one
Saying you contribute to RL suffering = depends on what types of porn you consume. I'd never watch rape 'porn' because I can never be sure if the victim was a real one

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
People are insufferable assholes for making personal attacks against your character because they think your kink is gross, but, like mentioned above, fandom in its entirety is not a safe place, not for triggers and not for kinks. Try to find well-moderated niches that have a zero-tolerance policy for that kind of shit. The price for the moderation might be warnings slathered all over little thing and arrogant moderators who think they're god, but the price for anything-goes places is that, well, anything goes, including horrible remarks (see: 4chan).

kinks don't hurt anyone until they do

(Anonymous) 2013-08-31 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Until you don't tag them and someone is triggered by them, when you could easily have avoided that with just a tiny little tag. Then yes, your fictional kink has hurt someone real, and you should indeed feel bad.

It doesn't take much to label/warn for content. When did your kinky fun become more important than simple common courtesy and respect for others? Please note: nobody is shaming you for having a kink!! They're most likely complaining because you're forcing it on the public without properly warning for it. I don't understand what's so hard to grasp about this concept.

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[personal profile] fs_lurker 2013-09-01 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I approve.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-08 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
We all have kinks and loves that other people would scorn us for. Please don't lose hope that you'll find someone that'll like the same things as you. I promise that there are people who love the same stuff that you do. :)