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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-03 06:32 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
The characters made for little boys are the robot equivalent of grown men.

The characters made for little girls are the pony equivalent of underage girls.

This has been yet another episode of These Furry Pedo Things Are Not Like The Other Things.

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[personal profile] lynx 2014-02-03 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, I'll bite. As far as I know, the differences are:

- Transformers do not pander to the female fanbase.
- The female fanbase doesn't act entitled or like they own the show.
- The female fanbase who writes the NC-17 fics doesn't put them in places that any child could easily reach.

I can't take this secret seriously, though.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm in neither fandom so I'm just speculating here, but maybe the Transformers fans are more discrete about it? I see a lot of criticism about pony porn being that it's posted on places like Tumblr without any warning tags, where any child could come across it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Transformers fans aren't as terrible and don't annoy me personally as much.

Sure, maybe that's not, you know, rational, or just, but fuck it, sometimes that's how it is.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Bronies infiltrating and eventually holding a slight influence of the show made for little girls, who rarely have thoughtful (at least for the age group) shows directed at them, posting inappropriate images about the characters where it's easy to find...and we're picking on them. Riiiight.
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2014-02-04 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of get where you're coming from, OP. I see a lot of people complaining about the MLP fandom and while that's understandable because I'm not in fandom and the wank blows up so hard even my fandoms can feel it, I think it's unfair for people to say they dislike the fandom because of the sexualisation. Say you hate it because the vocal fans are often melodramatic babies who need to pull their heads out of their arses, not because they sexualise ponies. It's 2014, everything is a kink so why pick on that part?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Is Transformers really made for little boys? I thought that was a less gendered show than MLP but maybe that's just because I was a little girl who watched it. Or least the 80s version.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
But don't Transformers have more male fans than female fans? I'm talking about adult fans.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see T-shirts in stores that say "[whatever women who ship transformers call themselves]", or mainstream news articles about it.

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Hmm, so, this will be today's wank secret, right?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Women sexualizing something for their own enjoyment is not equivalent to men sexualizing something for their own enjoyment, because men enjoy a position of power in society that women do not.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about the Transformers but isn't it like robots and such? How is that the same as sexualizing underage characters? Would it be better if male fans sexualized the robot characters and women sexualized underage male characters on a children's cartoon? Would that be cool?

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Last I checked it was because Bronies think they should be given fucking medals for doing it. Plus they don't bother to hide the porn from kids. Plus they act like their special for doing it. Plus they have voice actors sign the plush dolls they fuck and tell them about how the fuck it.

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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-02-04 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, my problem isn't that Bronies are making porn. EVERY fandom makes porn, including the fandoms for kids' shows.

My problem is that they're such mouthbreathers that they can't keep the porny stuff under wraps like virtually every other cartoon fandom. If I search for Adventure Time stuff, I'm not going to find porn unless I actually want it. My Little Pony? You have to be really careful to avoid stuff that's inappropriate for kids. Guess who doesn't know how to be careful yet? LITTLE GIRLS.
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(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Troll secret but I hate what bronies have done to this fandom with their entitlement bullshit.

Also, Transformers are robots who vaguely resemble adult human men. Ponies might be "adults" in their world but they have the mentality of young girls (look at Pinkie Pie having tea parties with her stuffed animals) and vaguely resemble HORSES.

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I would suggest this.

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If people IRL have sex with machines (vibrators,etc), it's not wrong.

If they rape horses, on the other hand...

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1. The parts of the MLP fandom that pornify the ponies are correlated strongly with the parts that are obnoxious jerks to everyone. The "brony" phenomenon does not have a TF equivalent, as far as I know.

2. Most relevantly to the matter at hand, TF fans generally keep their porn marked and away from where kids are likely to see it. Bronies do not. That is a Big Deal imo. All fandom has porn, and all fandom has creepy porn. That's inevitable. The difference is whether you advertise it, or lock it down like you should so people who don't want to see it (or who are too fucking young to see it) aren't gonna see it.

That's the difference.

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Because men are gross.

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The difference is I can look up Bumblebee and not see any sexualized pictures of him, but if I look up Rarity I will undoubtedly find sexualized pictures of her where small girls can easily see them. We at least keep our nasty porn under wraps.

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I personally don't like either, but I could see why MLP is more squicky, because the characters are very childlike in how they act, how they're drawn, the lessons they learn in each episode, their innocence, and etc.

That doesn't necessarily make TF porn morally superior. But it's not hard to see why people lose their shit over MLP porn far more so.

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Maaaaaaaaaaybe because you don't see a shit ton of said female Transformers fans shoving their porn down everyone's throats and flashing it around and screaming about their HUSBANDOS or clanking or just being really, really fucking obnoxious about it.

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None of this arguing over whether the fictional ponies are underage is irrelevant because the difference between the groups is that the Transformers fandom keeps it mostly online and to themselves and bronies expose themselves to mocking about as much as they possibly could and treat the intended audience of the show as inferior. None of the Transformers fangirls have any issue with them being marketed to little boys and not pandering to the adult audience.

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To be totally honest... I kind of agree. I get the whole brony thing has blown up across the Internet, but I can't say that adults liking kids TV shows and sexualizing them is bad, because that happens everywhere. I say this as a woman, but it seems like female fans are responsible for so much of the Internet's fandom porn, and it seems hugely hypocritical when those same women get mad at bronies.

And to be honest, I think Transformers porn is really fucking weird. So is pony porn, but at least the "mane 6" are adults, and don't resemble children or anything... so I'm not sure why we're pointing fingers.

It's also worth putting out there that it isn't fair to judge a fandom by its loudest and worst.

(I am not a fan of either, if it matters. I just kind of laugh at the backlash of MLP fandom... when you can look at any number of female-dominated fandoms that are pretty much as bad, if on a slightly smaller scale)

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There is no difference. The kind of people who act like there is are just being self-righteous.

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