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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-28 03:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2734 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2734 ⌋

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elaminator: (X-Men: DOFP - Quicksilver (smile))

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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-06-28 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
X-Men, yes. Just because at this point with First Class and Days of Future Past they know what they're doing and they're better off in their own little universe. Plus I've always thought that discrimination against people with superpowers is kind of silly in a universe where the Fantastic Four and Avengers exist.

I don't think they would mesh well either, though I think it would be interesting to see the characters meet. It just wouldn't work, though. They don't feel like the same universe. (Seeing as The Avengers now have a fanbase in verse and are (apparently) widely thought of as heroes, it would be odd to have the X-Men feared and mutants hated in the same verse.)

Poor Spider-Man for being compared to a festering anus though...*shudder* I didn't see the last movie, but it can't be that bad.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not so much bad as it is forgettable. It's incredibly rushed as well for something that Sony is planning on milking indefinitely. Harry's storyline could have at minimum filled two movies or three for that matter.


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He's introduced as Peter's former best friend, he's dying from a genetic disease, Spider-Man refuses to help him for his own good, he gets pissed, becomes the Green Goblin, kills Gwen Stacy, goes to prison and plots the Sinister Six. All of this in one movie, on top of Electro doing his thing.

I mean decompressed storytelling isn't always the answer but FFS. At least in the Raimi trilogy Harry had weight and it felt like he had an actual relationship with Peter.
elaminator: (X-Men: First Class - Charles (Cerebro))

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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-06-28 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Harry's storyline could have at minimum filled two movies or three for that matter.

It sounds like that would have been much better; that is a LOT of major stuff to happen in one film and I don't see how it could be anything other than rushed and shallow. ...That said, lots of movies rush to include too many characters or story-lines and end up failing with them because of that, so Spider-Man wouldn't be unique in that regard. (And IA about Harry in the other trilogy. Even though I didn't like much about those films, Harry and Peter's relationship was good.)

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-29 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of what's wrong with Harry's storyline could have been fixed with a few extra lines and scenes in the first one to establish him as Peter's friend.

A quick line from Ben or May worrying about Peter without Harry around to help with bullies, and Peter replying he's been handling himself fine the past two years. A shot of or a scene of Peter reading a magazine and a quick, bitter line from him about how well Harry's doing despite not calling. After cutting off the message Ben left him, Peter trying to call Harry and having him not pick up. Then Peter moves on to Gwen as an emotional anchor.

It wouldn't have added too much time to the movie, would have established their friendship and history a bit, and laid the groundwork for the awkward reunion and rekindling of their friendship in the second one. It would also have laid groundwork for Peter to hesitate and be a little distrustful of him as he's already proven to be flighty, and therefore not easily trusted with the Spiderman powers, so his refusal to even give a blood sample to test for a cure would be more understandable.
truxillogical: (Default)

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[personal profile] truxillogical 2014-06-29 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
TBH, Harry's story had me wishing that the new Spidey was a nice, well-funded miniseries, because I would've liked time to have properly reacted to all the character moments with a collective fandom, and it would've been nice to have more than just a movie to build on Harry and Peter's...relationship. Give it all time to sink in, feel solid, etc. With Gwen too, of course.

I think for what they did, though, it went pretty well. Not quite the trainwreck of Spidey 3.