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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-12 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3693 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3693 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2017-02-12 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
[Crazy Ex-Girlfriend]

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate Josh more and more each episode. I hate Rebecca for the reasons I'm supposed to hate Rebecca, which is the whole point of Rebecca. I love Valencia and Heather more and more, though, and that makes me happy.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked Paula a lot at times throughout the second season, but then she was right back to the unhealthy old patters in the season finale.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Meant to say "patterns"

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Paula season 1 versus Paula season 2 was such a big jump. She went from someone who was more then willing to do outlandish and dangerous things to someone who was extremely grounded with a lot of common sense.

I'll be interested to see how they handle her in season 3, I think it would make sense if she backtracked a bit because that can happen a lot and I don't believe she fully took on all her issues.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah that's the thing, Rebecca has always been awful but Josh just continues to get worse so I think it's easier to ignore Rebecca.

I'm looking forward to more Valencia and Heather next season. I also hope we get more Hector because he can be randomly hilarious.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I always liked Josh a lot, but I think the writing in season 2 did him no favours. It's like they took all his flaws and ramped them up while also forgetting what made him likable before. His portrayal was a lot less balanced than in the first season.

I mostly don't get the fandom's love for Greg, though. I liked him fine, but he wasn't any "better" for Rebecca than Josh and she wasn't any happier with him, so I don't get why people present him as the healthy, good option.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Most people I've encountered don't believe Greg is the right option unless both Greg and Rebecca work on themselves and then come back to each other later.

I lovvvveee Greg and I liked Greg/Rebecca more then I like Josh/Rebecca but that's not saying I wanted Greg/Rebecca to keep destroying each other. I liked their chemistry but I didn't want that same plot from season 1 to keep happening. I just wanted Greg on the show regardless, I didn't need him to be with Rebecca, I just like the character.

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[personal profile] sadiesockmonkey 2017-02-12 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel you, OP.

I don't understand the Josh hate at all.

As for fandom being about shipping, well, fandom gonna ship, but I agree. I mean, I'm not necessarily above it, I think "Ooh, it'd be fun to see Bex hook up with [insert character] but people honest to God shipping in terms of what's gonna be endgame when the ultimate endgame is Rebecca actually taking the time to sit down with Dr. Akopian and address her issues head-on is...cringeworthy to say the least.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's near impossible to find a fandom where people don't care about ships, individual fans may not care but there will always be people shipping something. And Rebecca herself is so obsessed with who she ends up with (for very unhealthy reasons) that it becomes easy as an audience member to wonder yourself.

As far as Rebecca hate versus Josh hate goes, I think the thing about Rebecca is she's been messy since episode 1, but we are supposed to know about her inner thoughts and feelings a bit more then we know about Josh's. I tend to go back and forth with her, sometimes I feel really bad for her and other times I'm appalled by her behavior and don't think mental illness is an excuse for her action.

Josh was a bit more of a genuine nice guy in season 1, he had his problems, but it wasn't until season 2 that you really see that he's just as much of a mess as Rebecca is. A lot of what we saw of Josh before was through Rebecca's idealization of him, so I feel like some fans are just coming around to finding things they hate about him, if he had been presented a messy person from the beginning people might be more willing to forgive like they do with Rebecca.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just salty that Nipsey Hustle never came back. His apologies to his bitches are still my favorite part of the episodes I've seen so far.


(Anonymous) 2017-02-12 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)

Let's talk about the reveal in the finale that Rebecca had had a fling (possible sexual and therefore adulterous?) with a married law professor, and ended up institutionalized for a little while.

I think that took something away from the character. It was better when she seemed like someone who had always been neurotic but had also always been levelheaded, and moving to California for Josh was the first extreme thing she had done for love. Or at all.

Re: Spoilers.

(Anonymous) 2017-02-13 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I think it makes sense though when you consider one of the things Rebecca first did when she moved was flush her meds. She had obviously had problems before that were known.

I think it's possible who she was in New York was a response to that event as well, she went too far, but instead of realizing this and working on her issues she just repressed a lot. And that worked well enough to get her through law school and make her a successful lawyer, but since she never addressed her underlying issues in a real way, it was just a matter of time before she broke down again.

Mental illness can sometimes be a cycle, and I say this is as someone who is mentally ill (not to the extremes Rebecca is, but I know how it is to seem to be doing well only to break down again.)