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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-14 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3723 ]

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(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, writing doesn't have to be Pulitzer-prize winning levels in order to move you emotionally, OP.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
In OP's defense, liking Twilight in fandom spaces used to be a pretty huge taboo. People seem to have calmed down from it somewhat, though.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably cause most people are now willing to admit that they had a Twilight phase when they were younger - or if not that, some other kind of phase where they loved something that isn't considered really good in hindsight

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Like when I was 35? No, I can't say I have.

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[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2017-03-14 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconding above. It doesn't have to be quality to touch a heart nerve. :•)

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I...don't understand. What was sad about the ending of New Moon?

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe OP means because it was a happy ending? (Having never read New Moon, of course.)

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I think it was a pretty happy ending (or at least, I'm pretty sure that's how Meyer meant for the reader to feel about it). But 1) It wasn't that happy, and 2) OP's phrasing of "cried myself to sleep" sounds distinctly like sad crying to me. *shrugs*

I'm guessing the other posters in this thread are probably right that it's about Jacob.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe Bella hooking up with Edward again made OP sad or happy? The ending personally bummed me out because I wanted her to hook up with Jacob.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you're probably right about this. "Cried myself to sleep" sounds like sad crying to me, so it's probably that OP was say Bella didn't hook up with Jacob.

I don't particularly adore Edward, but Jacob is one of my least favorite characters of all time. (I had too many Nice Guy male "friends" in my teens and early twenties, so to me Jacob had Creepy, Emotionally Manipulative, "Nice Guy" Asshole stamped all over him in font so big it was visible from the end of book one. His distinctive turn in that direction in book three came as no surprise to me whatsoever.) So I really can't imagine feeling sad that Bella doesn't get with him. Which is why OP's secret confused me.

But I should have considered that plenty of people really loved Jacob and were really hoping the series would go his way.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, a good number of people see him as a nice guy and not a Nice Guy. The movies helped with this in a few ways like where they made Bella and him childhood friends so them hanging out in New Moon made sense whereas it came out of nowhere in the books. Then Bella appeared to she enjoyed herself, smiling and all that, which didn't really happen with Edward. They also soften Jacob's worst moments. He apologizes for forcing himself on Bella in Eclipse and acts like he's honestly sorry. That doesn't happen in the books, either.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2017-03-15 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I should laugh at myself because I don't care about Twilight anymore and was pretty critical of it when I was in the fandom but I'm still miffed by the suggestion that it's a completely happy ending. The ending is perfectly sad if you liked Bella's relationship with Jacob, platonic or otherwise.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I wouldn't call it a completely happy ending. There's way too much unresolved conflict for it to be fully happy. But it's also not overly sad. Unless the reader is Team Jacob, in which case yeah, I guess it is pretty sad. It still doesn't seem quite that sad to me, but then I never believed that Jacob had a chance of being endgame, so even if I liked the guy, the ending would have been basically what I was expecting.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
My gf who had a major Twilight phase in her youth posits that it's a but ambiguous on if things will work out after the end of New Moon, making it not a clearly happy ending

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that it's definitely not a perfectly happy ending. But it definitely didn't seem "cry myself to sleep" level sad to me.

What others have already said is probably right. OP was probably just very passionately invested in Team Jacob.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Why did you read past the first book? It was terrible.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
It was an engaging enough read that millions of people (some of whom were, in fact, grown adults) became fans.

What's terrible to you, is a guilty pleasure to me, is someone else's "so good I couldn't put it down" read.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be more likely to have cried at the realisation that I had paid money for that book.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I almost did after I bought Breaking Dawn. I desperately wanted to know how it ended and went to one of those midnight parties at the bookstore to get my copy, then rushed home, read it in one sitting, and absolutely hated it.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
The first portion of the book actually leaked early online (maybe a few days before the release). There was a lot of people (me included) who realized where the story was going from those few chapters we got and canceled our preorders.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Something can be dumb and not that objectively high quality and still genuinely touch a person, if they are in an emotional space to respond to the idea presented. That said I don't know what the ending was, because I haven't read this, so ymmv I suppose.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I've resigned myself to the fact that I basically can't tell what's good and what isn't. I can identify quality writing in a vacuum and all that, but when I'm actually reading, I don't divide between Good and Not Good; I divide between I Like and I Don't Like, and those categories' relations to Good and Not Good are tangential at best. (c.f. the tie-in novel I'm reading right now that botches half of its relationships hilariously, consists largely of sentence fragments, and sidelines my favorite main characters from the original canon... but also absolutely nails the hurt/comfort, so I quite like it.)

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
OP, New Moon was my Twilight saga "gateway book". I don't recall crying, but it sure as hell made me devour the rest of the books, prompting a year long obsession with these books. Except Twilight itself. New Moon made me fall in love with Jacob.

The feelings can be strong, with this book.
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[personal profile] ceebeegee 2017-03-21 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
I like Jacob. I like Edward too, but I think Bella is more interesting with Jacob--their dynamic has actual give and take.