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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-14 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3723 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3723 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.



02. [repeat]


[Elementary, Sherlock/Fiona]


[Bucky Barnes]




[Rumer and Scout Willis]


[George R.R. Martin, ASOIAF]


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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-03-14 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I really think the people who go on about "pandering" like this are overestimating how much of the general audience out there cares about stuff like this.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think it's impossible to pander (in the sense of "creating something in such a way as to appeal to") to a relatively small percentage of fandom, then?
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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-03-14 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Not impossible, but I don't see why the people in charge of the show would think it would be profitable to pander to that small percentage.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
That assumes that:

1) including these diverse characters is a lot of effort
2) that everything writers and showrunners do is only for profit

You might have an argument with #2, but eh, not really. Shows often have silly inside jokes or cameos that don't get them any "profit" except to share a giggle with some of the audience. Don't let cynicism blind you to reality.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
For fannish goodwill? Someone else in this thread and the secret itself have already suggested the reason: the choices the show makes are relatively minor so they don't alienate the general audience, but still scores points with the smaller portion of the audience that does care about these issues.

Shows deliberately make little nods and references that only a small portion of their audience pick up on all the time. Ever heard of Easter eggs? In jokes? Sight gags? According to your reasoning, none of those things would ever happen.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-03-14 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a good point.

I'm mainly trying to figure out where the cynicism of people complaining of pandering begins and ends. It doesn't come naturally to me. :p

(Anonymous) 2017-03-14 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's my personal interpretation of the secret, but I thought OP was objecting to the fact that the show is scoring points without actually delivering very much. So, in a sense it's "pandering", but without much substance.