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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-15 06:40 pm

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(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem like someone who knows absolutely nothing about Asian history and why there is tension between the countries. (Hint: genocide and sexual slavery).

(Anonymous) 2017-03-15 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I think if anything AYRT's point would work a lot better if you flipped the ethnicities there

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I guess I can be anti-Muslim then and it's okay, Muslims have committed several terrorist attacks in my country so I guess I'm justified on my hate and prejudice.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:19 am (UTC)(link)

Muslims aren't a distinct country that invaded yours, though. That's not a good comparison.

If Saudi Arabia officially, as a nation, invaded your country and genocided its people, you'd probably be justified in hating the country. Japan kinda did that to a lot of Asia.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
"Muslims aren't a distinct country that invaded yours"

Country or not, they are invading mine and the rest of Europe.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
That's not analogous to what Japan did in WWII for example, though, so the point is moot.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, how dare those muslims take time away from your antisemitism and gypsy hating ways. Fuck you, Euro-trash

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
... You do realize that most Muslim countries and their populations HATE Jews, right?

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Belarusians were treated pretty bad in WW2, lots of people of all ages died, brute nazi 'police' detachments ie groups of executioners had no problem killing children and women, they viewed them as subhumans, they also raped a lot and shot peaceful civilians if they were drunk, having said this Belarus during the course of occupation was like the city of Nanking, unlike the city the murders, theft and atrocities dragged on for many months, and after all that they don't hate or have a grudge against the German people, against Nazis sure, but not current Germany.

I also know people from the Baltic states suffered horrendously from the bolsheviks (forced relocation to gulags for example) and they tried to exterminate Latvian culture by importing masses of Russians here and sending Latvians to Siberia yet no no grudges are held.

Having suffered so much Europeans don't whine, don't hold grudges. The people who hurt their ancestors are long gone, why the hate. Asians can't say the same. In Taiwan for example there's still people demanding an apology from Japan regarding "regarding comfort" women but eastern Europeans having suffered a million times worse demand no apology from the Germans for the actions of the Nazis.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
The Germans have officially acknowledged and apologized over and over though. Japan hasn't. There's a difference.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
An apologize means nothing. And the people who should do the apology and the ones that deserve it are dead, only their grandchildren remain. And let's not pretend Asian countries that are still holding grudges would be satisfied with an apology. They want to keep the old grudges strong.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
An apology means something. It's acknowledges that it happened and that they did something wrong. Some governments don't do that.

And how long ago do you think WWII was there? There are still plenty of victims still alive.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure dead prople care so much about apologies *rolls eyes*

Hating a country for things that happened 80 years is so fucking dumb and petty. Like, what are you hating exactly? The people who did those things are deader than dead, you're just hating a piece of land. Save that hate for countries thst are doing terrible shit right now.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 10:55 am (UTC)(link)
Who did you lose? Are you Jewish? Roma? No? Shut your fucking mouth, bitch. You didn't do shit to help us and neither did your god forsaken relatives. Stop using our deaths as your excuse to be fucking garbage.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think Holocaust denial is terrible shit?

What do you think of the fact that Japan, today, is still refusing to admit the Rape of Nanking was as bad as it really was, and their tally of civilian deaths and war crimes that happened there is 1/3 lower than the rest of the world's?

Relations between Japan and China have been complicated as a result, as denial of the massacre is seen as part of an overall unwillingness on Japan's part to admit and apologize for its aggression, or a perceived insensitivity regarding the killings.[1] Estimates of the death toll vary widely, ranging from 40,000 to over 300,000.[2][3] Some scholars, notably the revisionists in Japan, have contended that the actual death toll is far lower, or even that the event was entirely fabricated and never occurred at all.[4][5] These revisionist accounts of the killings have become a staple of Japanese nationalist discourse.[6]

In Japan, only a small but vocal minority deny the atrocity outright.[6][7] Some Japanese journalists and social scientists, such as Tomio Hora and Katsuichi Honda, have played prominent roles in countering revisionist historiography, in the decades since the killings. Nonetheless, denialist accounts, such as those of Shūdō Higashinakano, have often created controversy in the global media, particularly in China and other East Asian nations.[6][8] Coverage of the massacre in Japanese school textbooks also troubles Sino-Japanese relations, as in some textbooks, the massacre is usually only briefly mentioned.[9]

If you think events and issues started by WWII are all over because it's been 80 years, you sound very very teenage.
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[personal profile] litalex 2017-03-16 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
And let's not forget that the more recent Japanese prime ministers are still going to or donating to the Yasukuni Shrine, which honours Japanese war criminals from WWII.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Imagine two drunk drivers kill two families.

The first drunk driver hates himself for what he did. He fully takes the blame for it, considers it forever a horrible part of his past, and goes to educate everyone he can about the dangers of drunk driving and commits a huge amount of resources to stop other drunk drivers and drunk driving in general.

The second drunk driver says the event was regrettable. He says he is very sorry that two people died but denies that the third person's death happened at all. He says reports of the third person's death are overblown and inaccurate, and stoically and nobly displays the wounds he got from the accident. He barely bothers to mention the incident to his children.

Yeah, I can see why they get different treatment.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, EU had to slap Latvia on the fingers for their treatments if its Russian population. But sure, no grudges...

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
And Russians are currently slaughtering civilians in Ukraine. Fuck you too, bitch.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2017-03-16 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
However legit the Baltic states' grudges against Russia are, and however reasonable their suspicions of modern Russia are (and they are, I'm not denying it), the Latvian SS apologists are still way out of line.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What a charming person you are, sweetie. Feel better now?

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
You haven't been to Finland, I see. It's 100 years since they got rid of Russia. And still there are plenty of people there who hold grudges. Or Northen Ireland, to take another European example.

(Anonymous) 2017-03-16 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Aah, bad example on my part, my bad. I'm South Korean myself, and I'm just pissed off at all the continued in-fighting, especially based in something as stupid as consumable media, so I get annoyed when people just claim "Asian" like it's fine to spit hatred all over groups you don't belong to. I wasn't referencing anything direct.