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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-10 06:44 pm

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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-05-10 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I love both the whimsical and the "what the actual fuck". I'll take it all.
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[personal profile] wannabe_influential 2017-05-10 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved her book 'Adopt-A-Ghost'! It was the first book I was ever truly psyched about finishing

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked most of Roald Dahl's books as a kid, but I read some of Eva Ibbotson's books later (I think some of them were aimed slightly older) and I liked them as well. I agree she should be more popular, in general, not compared Roald Dahl or any other author.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked Roald Dahl's books, but I can understand certain types of "wtf" not agreeing with certain people. Probably why I can never get into Terry Pratchett.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Fistbump from passing anon who also could never get into Terry Pratchett for similar reasons. (To the bafflement and/or disdain of pretty much everyone I know.)

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, I still have my copy of Which Witch, though I don't think I ever read any of her others.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-05-10 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh that's why I know the name!

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I love it! It was such a cute book.
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[personal profile] sadiesockmonkey 2017-05-10 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never read any Roald Dahl, although I think in 3rd grade, the teacher read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory aloud to the class, if that counts, but I loved The Secret of Platform 13, so I approve of this secret.

(Although granted, after loving The Secret of Platform 13 so much, I think I tried to read Which Witch and just couldn't get through it, but I also couldn't get through Matilda despite loving the movie, so Ibbotson still gets my vote in terms of whom I prefer.)
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-05-10 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
While I don't think Matilda is the only Dahl book I've read, it's the only one I really remember, and I love it.

Ironically, while I think the movie is very good, it scared me shitless the first time I watched it (I was six or seven), so for a while I hated it!
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[personal profile] sarillia 2017-05-10 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't handle Danny DeVito's unpleasant directing style in Matilda. Too many uncomfortable close-ups of people bothers me.

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[personal profile] sadiesockmonkey 2017-05-11 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I think I got the book out of the library and after not becoming engrossed after the first page gave up and next thing I knew, it had to go back.

I totally get that about the movie though. I think there's a part of my dad that still thinks I hate Lilo & Stitch because after getting the DVD for Christmas one year, I said I hated it when in reality, I think it's very melancholy, and I didn't have the vocabulary to express that at the time. I love Lilo & Stitch.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Whimsical is...not the first adjective I would use to describe Dahl. Fantasy or not, there's a very cynical and vicious edge to all of Dahl's work that's somewhat diluted in the popular consciousness. I mean, The Witches is brutal, and it's always been one of my favorites of his. I remember liking some of her work, but I don't think these two actually belong in the same category other than 'has some magic' and 'is for kids'.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
People are always talking about Dahl as if his work was all fiddle-dee-dee and charming, which is extremely weird to me. Even the chocolate factory story, which is the best known of his, is...disturbing in parts.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
It's so weird! Like, you can't even blame the movies, because even if they soften the edges up a little with bright colors, the movies still tend to have plenty of 1) terrifying abuses of power by uncaring adults 2) plenty of fridge horror 3) gore for kids!

Like, even the original chocolate factory movie has four of five children being horribly mutilated or trapped in industrial accidents, the nightmare fuel boat ride, and Wonka's jerkass speech at the end. Matilda has straight-up child abuse. Forget the wormwoods, there's the chokey. The chocolate cake thing! Throwing a child by her hair.
James and the Giant Peach has the wicked aunts, the giant bugs, spooky weird biological dripping gooey aesthetic everywhere. Big Friendly Giant, which is arguably one of his most fanciful, what with all the dream jars, has literal nightmare fuel and the wicked giants who 312% want to eat children as much as possible. It's all exaggerated but the horror is still there under the cartoonishness - it's not whimsical so much as gleefully ghoulish!

You either like that or you don't. I love it, but if someone wants earnest or heartwarming or whimsical fantasy...Dahl is not the place to go.


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[personal profile] randomdrops 2017-05-11 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I've never tried to read his books as an adult, but I have fond memories of reading quite a few of them as a kid.

Actually, it started with my 5th and 6th grade teacher. Roald Dahl was her favorite author, and she would occasionally sit and have reading time where she'd read to the class aloud. I loved those times. During that period I was on medication that made reading incredibly difficult (specifically, reading comprehension and focus) and I remember just finding such joy in being able to listen to the stories I wanted to read but couldn't seem to. And I remember finding them so peculiar and funny and delightful. I loved that teacher and those moments so much they eventually inspired me to try reading more the next year, and I was so proud when I finally made it all the way through Matilda on my own.

All that being said, I imagine that if you were to only read them as an adult they'd not have the same magic. It seems to be a pretty age specific kind of humor and bizarre fantasy in his stories.

I have read Eva Ibbotson and enjoyed them as well, they just don't have the same emotional connection.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's a really sweet story! I'm glad you had such an inspiring teacher!
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2017-05-11 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with your comments on Dahl - i really dislike his style and have never much enjoyed his books at all.

I haven't read the other author, but now I think i might seek out a few books, to see. Always room for more good authors!

It's part of the reason I enjoyed Dahl.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
The sheer wtf? of some of the things he wrote. I was a voracious reader as a kid and there were a lot of formulaic books out there which I also usually enjoyed, but sometimes got a little tiresome. And his books were not at all predictable to me. I don't know why, but even though I was baffled by the Vermicious Knids, I was also fascinated by them and the idea of a hotel in space, too. Sometimes things capture your attention. And nobody was pushing it or anything, I found my first Dahl book in the school library, not prominently displayed, but just on the shelf.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not familiar with your second author, but Dahl always grossed/squicked me out, even as a kid.
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[personal profile] cactus_rs 2017-05-11 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
I love Roald Dahl (though the anti-Semitism has made that a "mixed love/problematic fave" situation), but I know how you feel, OP. Thanks for the free book rec, because somehow I missed Ibbotson when I was growing up!

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
I love her books.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I cannot STAND Eva Ibbotsen's books. She cannot deal with even a slight amount of moral ambiguity for any of her characters and tramples it out to a "beating a dead horse" extreme. I've read a few of hers and I tended to like the first half of each book very much and by the end wanted to see all the heroes die horribly because of how the author goes on and on about them being so wonderful whereas all the antagonists descend from complex characters into villain stereotypes. (The Secret Countess is the worst.)

(Anonymous) 2017-05-11 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
As I so often do, I'd just like to take this opportunity to mention that Roald Dahl wrote some adult books and short story collections (and some, like My Uncle Oswald, are very adult indeed and should probably have a content warning attached).