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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-12 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3874 ]

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(Anonymous) 2017-08-13 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a dog expert, but I've never gotten the rabid hate he inspires. His books and show seem like a perfectly reasonable method of dog training. People act like he's advocating puppy whipping or somewhere. I don't get it.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-13 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
His method of dominating and that being the only way to train a dog isn't always abusive, but it can be. But even when it isn't, it isn't the only or even the best way to train a dog. Unlike what he says, you don't have to teach the dog who is boss to train him. You don't have to dominate. Dogs aren't wolves.

For any pet, both cats and dogs, the best training method is positive rewards for good things and ignoring for bad things. You don't have to dominate them, and you shouldn't.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-13 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for explaining how you see it. I agree not all methods could ever work for all dogs!

Also having learned a little more about wolves, they don't really work that way, either. The studies that showed wolves are all about alpha dynamics and violent fighting to maintain control of the pack were conducted with a bunch of unrelated wolves put into a confined space, and yeah, that's not how they work in the wild, always fighting among themselves.

In the wild, a more natural dynamic involves a lot of cooperation, generally revolves around family, and has a lot less fighting, more respect for elders, etc. So yeah. I can see how the mindset that dominating is the best way could definitely be self-defeating, even for understanding wolves.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-13 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
They're not reasonable if you understand anything about dogs. He uses negative reinforcement a lot. So basically your dog ends up doing what you want out of fear rather than any positive feeling like love or enjoyment. And considering dogs are basically trapped with their humans, unable to leave or choose another family to live with, they're basically stuck in this abusive life.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-13 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds so sad. :(

(Anonymous) 2017-08-13 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
there are words that exist among those times.

discipline and running wild....
don't be so lenient towards things that have flesh and blood with it.