[ SECRET POST #5425 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5425 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[The Untamed]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #776.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Make your secret if it makes you feel better, I guess. But basically your entire concern was about whether Lindsay had the friend’s permission, which now you know she had. Your other concern about it going into too much detail is subjective. Especially because most of the explicit details pertain to Lindsay’s experiences of sexual assault.

I don’t know if the information given really is enough for doxxing, although I obviously don’t want that to happen either. It just feels a little iffy that you want to make a secret about this, with that part of the video being just as much about Lindsay’s sexual assault as her friend’s. Maybe I’m just being biased and oversensitive because I’m a survivor too(and I’m not saying you’re not, because I never assume people I talk to haven’t gone through similar abuse just because I don’t know for sure right away.) And my experiences may shape how I feel about certain situations and the way people react to them.

Why were the responses unsatisfactory to you overall?

[(Anonymous)]

The responses focused on LE's reasoning for disclosing her own assault, which was perfectly within her right to do and not even mentioned as a concern in my original comment, aside from the one person who affirmed that she had permission to disclose the other story which... I guess I have to take their word for it. I checked the video at the time and did it again just now just to see if there's some kind of disclaimer and found none.

You may feel iffy about it, but consider that you're feeling that way now about the possibility that I *might* make a secret discussing a video essay that was posted publicly for millions to see, and not about the video maker's choice to disclose to said millions that, and this is a particularly graphic example, her friend was found by her in a stairwell covered in bodily fluid. That is not a detail I wanted to know about anyone's life unless that person chose to tell me, and now I just know that about some woman I've never met or heard from.

In fact, it was so strange to just hear this in the essay that I went back to check if I had perhaps exaggerated. Nope, it is exactly as I remembered, as was the info about the location that allows anyone familiar with the NYU scene to practically geolocate this building. If you want to be really uncharitable, you might even say that story was only included to add flavor to the Lindsay-centered narrative. I don't actually think that, but I find the segment messy and poorly considered and it's honestly never sat right with me. There's no agenda here.

[(Anonymous)]

That person did choose to tell her story, though. She choose for her friend to give voice to her story. That is choosing to tell her story, just using someone else to do so.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, like I said, at least *believing* that the friend gave permission makes me feel better about the situation, even if I only have an anon's word for it. But I don't have to be okay with a creator's choice just because their source is okay with it, knowing Lindsay Ellis's Nazi trolls can sit on a tweet for years waiting for the opportunity and her acquaintance get hate even for expressing online support.

[(Anonymous)]

ok but like deciding you know better than an assault survivor how they should handle their own story is not the moral high ground you think it is. you can't be judgemental towards lindsay ellis over this without also being judgemental towards her friend for allowing it to happen.
that's a choice you can make but don't go around feeling superior for it

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe it being messy was part of her point. Maybe the unfortunate side effect of her friend's assault being dragged up with hers--since they were connected by timing and mutual experience--is meant to give pause to people who have sympathy for victims. Catering to the potential trolls is exactly what she wasn't doing in the video and what she (and her friend) shouldn't have to do to be respected on these matters.