[ SECRET POST #2920 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2920 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Just as a heads up, no post tomorrow! Big family event thing, I don't think I'll be able to post. Regular updates resume Friday and on!

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 011 secrets from Secret Submission Post #417.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/Y49PaiT.png

[(Anonymous)]

>pretenting

[(Anonymous)]

Stop with the 4chan > crap. It is not needed AT ALL here. Fucking quit it.

[(Anonymous)]

>being this mad

[kaijinscendre]

Supernatural? Or Sherlock...

[(Anonymous)]

Yes.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, the Sherlock crew are supreme queerbaiters, so viewers should be given a pass there. And yes, I know Mark Gatiss is gay. Still a queerbaiter.

[(Anonymous)]

THISSSSSSSS

[(Anonymous)]

This isn't even a secret, man. You just want to bitch about headcanons and I'm just so sick of unrelenting bitching about headcanons on both sides.

(Not saying this should have been failbar'd, for reference)

[(Anonymous)]

What these are aren't headcanons though. They're AUs.

[(Anonymous)]

IA. And liking a character who isn't a straight white man does not make you special.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. Annoying militant fans who pretend their head canons are such ~important representation~ piss me off.

But the people who act like they're so *special* and *oppressed* because they ship someone who isn't a white guy are in the same fucking boat as far as I'm concerned.

[(Anonymous)]

And those aren't the rarest things in the world, either at least the women part. There are many well written female characters in the history of fiction, especially sci fi and fantasy fiction. I've never felt like I've had to work extra hard to find stuff to see myself on screen or on a page. But I'm also white and probably straight. So...

[(Anonymous)]

People often headcanon characters as being [marginalized identity] because they share that identity and they're saddened by the fact that they lack canonical/~real~ representation. I doubt that most people (outside of Superwholock-type fans, who are possibly demons sent to inflict secondhand embarrassment upon the internet) genuinely believe that their headcanons = ~~important representation~~~~

Also, it can be comforting to see your identity "represented" in fanworks, so it's not like this exercise is entirely SJW posturing. It certainly can be posturing, but it can also be helpful and comforting to people who aren't likely to see representation in mainstream media any time soon. I don't get the vitriolic reaction against it, honestly.

[(Anonymous)]

Because people dislike fags. There, I got it in one.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. Racebending and headcanons don't make a canon anything like that. OP seems to be complaining about the people who go "x character is canonly trans BECAUSE I SAY SO" which usually boils down to "x character is trans because cis ppl are GROSS u transphobe THEY'RE TRANS DEAL WITH IT."

I think my biggest issue is that there is media out there with trans, POC, and anon queer characters. But it's often indie and people let it remain small scale because they're too busy trying to put Dean Winchester as a trans WOC and then claim that Supernatural is progressive because they said so.

Meanwhile, Korra had a canon bisexual POC protagonist and Welcome to Night Vale has a canon m/m interacial pair (and a few canon trans people!) Marvel has a couple canon m/m and f/f pairs among plenty of other canons they could get that without whining about headcanons. They wouldn't have to bring their diversity; it would already be there.

Hmmm.

[(Anonymous)]

I headcanon a certain Transformers character as being blind. I have a mental disability myself. I don't headcanon him that way because of representation, I just thought it was a cool "what if?" idea and ran with it. I'm pretty sure someone somewhere will yell that I'm doing it wrong, but I don't care. LOL

I agree with other posters who say liking a character who isn't a straight white man doesn't make anyone super special or anything.

Why DOES it matter what people like in fandom? Not everyone is into my headcanons and I really don't care. I write them because I enjoy it and those who like it keep coming back to read more. It's no skin off my back if someone hates my ideas. It used to be, till I did some growing up and getting over myself. Haters gonna hate, after all.

When will people separate insults to what they like from insults directly aimed at them? I think that's the main problem. "You're a piece of shit!" is very different from "Transformers is shit!" But the line is crossed if someone said to my face, "You're a piece of shit for liking Transformers." Cue me eyerolling and walking away while thinking that person is rude. :)

I always shake my head if I see someone say "everyone who likes X is a shitty person!" or whathaveyou, because I know those are the troll hooks being thrown out to attract wank. Trolls who say that probably don't know each individual personally, so you have no need to defend yourself against them. But people take it personally and fire insults back, and before you know it the mess turns into a wanknado. What a shame.

Imma take my headcanons and go play now. Buh bye!

Re: Hmmm.

[(Anonymous)]

....w-who? Because I LOVE stuff like that. I'm pretty particular to Jazz, or Animated!Prowl myself!

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, this happens everywhere. I feel your pain, OP.

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[(Anonymous)]

LGBTQA person who likes to headcanon their fave character as LGBTQA because they get very little representation in media and it makes them feel good- Good for you :) Feel free to have fun/feel safe in fandom spaces.

Fans attacking other fans for not portraying a character as LGBTQA when they aren't in canon, fans expecting infinite representation points for writing a fic/creating fan art where a character is trans/gay, fans complaining about lack of LGBT representation but then making no attempt to create new media or support works with good LGBT representation- wtf. you need to stop

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[(Anonymous)]

People do that second thing? I've never seen anyone attack a person for not thinking a character is straight. Usually it's queer fans defending themselves saying "there's more than one way to read a character. This is why this character speaks to me as a queer person and/or here's evidence from canon to suggest they're not entirely straight or cis or whatever." Fans don't want representation points for their fan work. They "make" characters queer because they don't see themselves in their favorite fandom.

Also not everyone has the means to make media or get it out there. Let's be frank and say America, at least, is still populated with many bigots. Lots of major media publications are scared of "controversial" materiel whose controversy is acknowledging queer people exist. Look at how the producers Constantine wanted to erase his bisexuality. I mean, that's bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

supernatural, star trek, sherlock, teen wolf
Why should the writers even give us representation and thus actual queer characters when fans replace it with cis white dudes ~subtext.

[lb_lee]

I actually make money off writing about various underrepresented characters. And it does kinda frustrate me when people are like, "God, I really wish there was such a thing as nonbinary superheroes/asexual heroes/transgender people!" and I'm like, "I write it! Here are links!" but it never comes to anything.

In my more bitter moments, I feel like they're more interested in complaining about the lack of representation than actually SUPPORTING marginalized creators actually making the shit they want. Because that tends to involve, you know. Money.

Seriously, I know a lot of folks who write/draw/make comics about marginalized people, and all of them are generally scraping by. I try to spread the word of their stuff as much as I can, but... :(

[(Anonymous)]

I'm like, "I write it! Here are links!" but it never comes to anything

it could be because they just don't like the writing. I mean, I'm sure they do very much like to complain but they could also not like the writing

[(Anonymous)]

In my more bitter moments, I feel like they're more interested in complaining about the lack of representation than actually SUPPORTING marginalized creators actually making the shit they want. Because that tends to involve, you know. Money.

Sometimes I feel that way too. Like people would rather racebend or headcanon white cis straight /whatever characters for the representation than actually support marginalized creators who have good representation in their works.

There's something awful fishy about so many people preferring say, a white character written by a write creator, racebent to be black, over an actual black character by a black creator. And so on with various identities.