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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-09 04:08 pm

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[personal profile] rosehiptea 2017-09-09 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I want this to be a thing.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-09 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Lies! She was the OG Magical Girl, which was fresh and interesting at a time when space mecha dogfight shows were a dime a Gundam dozen.

Of course now there are shows where the magical girls turn INTO mechas and submarines and airplanes, so obviously the genres have reconciled their mutual weirdness.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-10 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Here, here!

(Anonymous) 2017-09-10 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
...No, no she was NOT. Not even close.

She wasn't even the first magical girl "warrior" (that MIGHT be Cutey Honey? Not 100% sure about that). The first magical girls were inspired by Bewitched, years before Sailor Moon with stuff like Magical Princess Minky Momo.

The ONLY thing Sailor Moon did first was combine the magical girl warrior with the Sentai (think Power Rangers) formula.
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[personal profile] luxshine 2017-09-10 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
First fighting magical girl (and directed to boys) was Cutey Honey, yes. Who the first MG is is a bit of a controversy, since some people claim it's Sally, while others think is Akko (the difference being who was the first animated vs. the first in manga). And of course, everyone lists Princess Knight as the first warrior magical girl, even if she didn't transform, because every manga genre has to track back to Osamu Tezuka.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-09 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it would have worked for what was obviously a corruption of both the Kaguya myth and the Selene myth.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-09 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
kaguya, really? I can see some similarities if you're looking for it, but not nearly on the level of inspiration from selene.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-10 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
A princess from a kingdom on the moon falls in love with a prince on the earth, but must return to her kingdom and so cannot be in love with him.

It's literally a combination of Kaguya and Selene in a very obvious way.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-10 10:22 am (UTC)(link)

Only if you look at the barest possible surface details and ignore everything else about the legends and the manga/anime. For one, seeing as Selene had 50 children with Endymion and he was allowed to stay young forever thanks to her kinda implies their love wasn't forbidden. And Kaguya wasn't specifically forbidden from loving anyone - depending on if she remembers her background, she either didn't want to marry because she knew she'd return or just because, but IIRC she was never forbidden from love.

Not to mention the SM Serenity wasn't forbidden from loving Endymion because she had to return to her kingdom, but because their kingdoms were enemies which... you have to agree creates a rather different scenario than the legends. Especially once you add the

Plus, you know, Sailor Moon has kinda more going for it than what you implied in your replies. Unless I missed a part of the Selene and Kaguya legends where they became warriors vanquishing enemies together with a whole slew of other girls/women against various demons/enemies in a giant pot-pourri of legends, myths, magical girl shows and sentai with sprinkles of the mangaka's jewellery and fashion interest.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-10 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Would it though? Coming on the heels of the 1980s, which saw the rise and domination of franchises like Gundam and Macross?
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[personal profile] dahli 2017-09-10 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Hue. I'm sure there's tons of anime series like that.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-13 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Haven't seen it yet but speaking as a TAZ listener he's my new headcanon Davenport