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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-24 03:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #3063 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3063 ⌋

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Re: Textbook Feedback - Chinese Version?

[personal profile] maximumhusky 2015-05-24 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Does anybody have some good recommendations for Chinese? I'd like to get myself something from Amazon for my birthday soon.

Re: Inspired by #10

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
There's no scientific evidence for chi as a real thing, but damn if it doesn't help my martial arts training. Maybe it's just a visualization technique I'm using, but it works.

Re: MRAs

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-24 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You gotta fight

for your right

to PAAAAAARRRRTAY

Re: He's in that???

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I about shit myself when I was watching Wings, and a guy appeared and I thought "Hey, he looks like a young Gary Cooper" and then they went in for a closeup and I said "Holy shit, that IS a young Gary Cooper!"

I'd just never thought of Gary Cooper as a silent-era actor.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, okay but your secret didn't have any of that context. You said that Cinderella made five year old you think that being unpretty and a poor singer made you evil. And that sounded a little extreme. Nothing about bullying or your sister. You can't throw a tantrum about the responses when you didn't even close to explain all that. Are you just trying to stir shit up? This reaction is so over the top it reads like bad trolling.
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Re: The nneewwwsssss

[personal profile] ibbity 2015-05-24 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what people are mostly angry about is the fact that the father:

a) deliberately chose to ignore the molestation for almost a year, despite the girls repeatedly coming crying to him about it;

b) outright refused to ever get any of the kids involved any kind of therapy or counseling and just made them all keep their mouths shut;

and then c) spent the next decade loudly lecturing the world about how much better than them he and his family are and how he knows better than anyone what the moral issues facing the country are and everyone should listen to him if they want to live and raise their families the RIGHT way.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-05-24 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I would say it's more like *announcing* that you're not going to perform at the open mic night without responses. The fic equivalent of simply deciding not to perform would just be you going "I got no motivation to write this story because no one ever comments on it" privately to yourself, and refraining from writing another fic.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Robin Mckinley's sleeping beauty story (Spindle's End) averts this quite nicely; there are many fairy godmothers and they all try to give innocuous gifts because huge personality- or life-altering blessings are frowned upon. And THEN, the later godmothers run in to the problem that their nice innocuous gift ("She will have a lovely voice", "she will have good health") they worked out earlier is given by another godmother so they have to make up a new one on the spot. ("Her skin will be as flawless as silk", "Her teeth will be as white as pearls")

Re: The nneewwwsssss

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Only thing that does unsettle me is the lack of concern over the daughters, and how the media attention affects them too.

Yeah, that really bothers me too. I especially feel sorry for Jinger. She always seemed like the most level headed person in the family. I remember that in some segments she would talk about how she didn't want a bunch of kids like her parents and that she wanted to move somewhere else and become a lawyer. I wonder if this is why :(
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Re: MRAs

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-24 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I really think the percentage of MRAs who actually cares about men's rights and not about trashing feminists are women is pretty small, considerably smaller than the percentage of social justice activists who actually care about social justice. I have yet to see any real evidence otherwise, at least not in places that are centers for MRM discussion (and even when I encounter people who are rational in their discourse in comment sections of other places, they still often tilt towards anti-feminism overall).

I won't say the MRM is monolithic, but it's small enough to be more echo-chambery than movements like feminism and social justice, and it was founded from a place of resentment towards women, not from a place of seeking justice/positive change.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Five would have been around the time I used to get speaking rather than singing parts in school plays etc. because I was that bad.

Admittedly I was completely oblivious and went right on singing for several years afterwards until I noticed for myself how horrible I was at it, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone who was less obtuse would pick up on those hints faster and take them to heart.

Don't ever remember having a concept of where I was on the pretty scale at that age though. I was one of those kids who started off cute and just got uglier as I went along though, so that comparison came later.
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Re: MRAs OP

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-24 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much all issues that disproportionately affect men *are* the result of patriarchy and entrenched gender roles, though. The only exception I can think of is infant circumcision, and it has a whole movement (intactivism) just for itself (plus that's an issue that affects infants of both sexes in developing countries).
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-24 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
lol are you serious

do you think the patriarchy doesn't exist? because that's some real conspiracy-theory level shit right there
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Re: MRAs

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-05-24 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't think that way. I've met too many genuinely good people who've turned it around after a childhood/young adulthood of being bad/misquided people to think that.

Re: MRAs OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I guarantee that this is one of the anti-feminist assholes we've been discussing here, posting as a strawman "feminist" in an attempt to discredit the movement. It's an insanely common tactic of anti-feminists, and unfortunately, tons of people fall for it.

Re: Textbook Feedback

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-24 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
As I recall I used those in some of my first year Japanese courses in Uni.

Genki was just fine, pretty serviceable, but I found it never adequately explained the difference between ni and de. It was a situation where I had to look for extra online lessons.

I don't really have much to compare it to though, so I can't really make any recommendations.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-24 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The list goes on, but not "on and on" because really, I think you named most of the centers of the MRM that exist on the internet (I'd add PUAs, though I'm not sure if there's a site or home base for them of any kind).

So I agree - they're not a monolith, but they kind of are a castle. A few different towers, but not diverse enough to be a city.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This was my first thought. All of the villains are able to sing, too (unless you go meta about Scar and Jeremy Irons needing Jim Cummings to cover some of Be Prepared). I haven't had training in a long time, but when I do sing Disney songs it's always the villain pieces. Gotta be ready in case I do get my world domination going c:

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
And that's the issue right there: fic is not a product, feedback is not currency, and WIPs do not carry a single obligation whatsoever.
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Re: How do you make secrets?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-05-24 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too! I always switch at least my fonts.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-24 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I think comparing them to bronies is a litttttle bit much. Like lol lets be real.
I mean disagree or not, they do have good intentions.
Which is something bronies never really had.
(Also unlike bronies, they didn't make a molesation meme and slut-shame a rape victim, so that automatically makes them leagues better.)
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Re: MRAs

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-24 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Name some MRAs that are significantly different from RoK, please

RoK is way more open about their belief in male supremacy, but in general their talking points are very similar to the rest
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(frozen comment) Re: MRAs

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-24 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
you are trying really hard here

go outside for a minute please
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Re: MRAs

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-05-24 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
wait for Tuesday. tomorrow's a holiday

Re: MRAs

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-24 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Too much work. You vastly underestimate my laziness quotient.

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