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[ SECRET POST #3063 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3063 ⌋

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why do 76% of anon users suck?

Hey! Named users suck WAY worse than us.

When you're anon, you're anon all the way, from your first silly quip to your last dying day.

How can you be so sure it's 76%? After all it's just me replying to myself day and day out.

Maybe on Tumblr coz it's geared towards art. On other sites I haven't noticed this attitude.

Bad art is more noticeable then bad fic so artists have it harder, imo.

lol, point.
mte, I had this thought when I posted, haha.

What about people who are anon only half the time and are logged in otherwise?

I like to do two handed swords or sword/axe. I mix in some spells as well but go warrior. Neutral is the way to go, that way I can kill whoever I want and take their stuff. Basically raid everyone and sell all their stuff to vendors. No tips from me, just free roaming fun is what I recommend. Mods can be great too, especially houses you can add to the map.

Putting aside the fact that no, you're never actually entitled to something someone's creating and offering for free, the problem I always have with opinions like this comes from the inherent implication that writers start things without the intention of finishing it, or doing the best they can with it. That somewhere, a whole legion of writers are sitting behind their screens rubbing their hands in glee that they've pissed off their loyal readers by stringing them along and not finishing their fic.

Do you write, OP? It tends to be people who don't that make these kinds of remarks. If you do write, then I assume from your secret that you've finished every single thing you started, and have never had a single idea for anything longer than a oneshot.

Haven't you ever had circumstances take your time, energy and focus away from something you love? Haven't you ever had the very best of intentions, but life means you end up letting someone down anyway? If that's the case, you're either very young or very lucky.

A writer starts writing something because they're so enthused and passionate about it that they can't not. They start posting a WIP for many reasons - some people are motivated by their readers' enthusiasm, some people appreciate feedback as they go along. Some people simply post to gauge interest, because no one has 25 hours or 8 days a week; we have to choose where to focus our energies in life, and if a writer writes for engagement with their readers, or improves from feedback, you have to choose to let the fic two people read go, vs. the fic that thirty people read. That's just life. Again if you've never had to make those kinds of choices, you're in the minority.

You have no idea why writers stop writing. That someone may be writing in a different fandom doesn't tell you why they switched. They may have simply lost interest; they may also have found that particular fandom environment pretty toxic (and if complaints like yours were par for the course there, I wouldn't be surprised) and needed to do something different. Because you seem to be under the impression that, first and foremost, writers are apparently doing all this work as a personal, free service to you. Pssst, they're not; they write because they want to. You're no more making them write than they're making you read, hence there's no obligation in that exchange. No one's making you promises when they write a fic. They're just writing a fic. You decide for yourself at what level you want to interact. The creator has no obligation to cater to your choice.

People always talk about fanfiction being a practice sandbox for "real" writing. You know what one of the main skills you need to learn when it comes to pro writing is? Finishing your work? Bonus question: do you know what one of the toughest skills to learn is? Also finishing your work. You'll be hard pressed to find a writer anywhere, in any form of the craft, in any genre, who doesn't have more ideas they've started than ideas they have finished.

Writers abandon/lost interest in/lose focus for/move on from ideas all the damn time, for every reason imaginable from horrific to casual. You're just seeing that practice played out in public.

A joke that has nothing to do with the topic is a bad joke. It's basically just like a teen spewing words and saying "LOL I'M SO RANDOM GUYS ISN'T IT HILARIOUS LAUGH AT ME."

actually i think you'll find that it's okay to just joke around, because jokes are funny

Well, that's a problem. You have to pick a side, you can't be both anon and named.

I think we should sing and dance about it for an hour and a half.

anons are going to have their day tonight! anons are going to have their way tonight!

I used to hate this place. It's a little more chill now aside from the occasional freak out. 4 years ago it was crawling with trolls. Now it's pretty tame.

Isn't that a bit like saying you don't believe in a little bit of bullshit, but if there's LOTS of bullshit you do?

um... Underhill has a Vary precise meaning, this implies creepy things about the families that use it.

My dad told me about meeting a Jewish guy whose name was German for "fish legs"

DA

Honestly I find that tone isn't even limited to F!S, it's how a lot of internet conversation happens lately. It's immediately hateful and knee-jerk, instantly polarized, instantly attacking the person rather than the opinion.

I know a lot of people blame Tumblr's SJW mentality for a lot of it, but I doubt very much that it began there either. I have no idea where it began, but it's made going online in general -- apart from some very carefully chosen spaces -- a toxic and stressful experience.

I've seen some of that attitude here, yes. Especially in threads where people talk about making money off fanart but not fanfic, a few people actually argued that well, art is hard and requires talent but writing is easy. That doesn't even make sense. Anyone can make art, just like anyone can write a fic. Making good art and writing good fic both requires talent.

I think people who flip out after finding out someone's fanfic past is just naive or they don't know much about publishing or books. LOTS of well known, professional writers have fanfic pasts. Maybe they did it back before it was widely distributed or archived like on AO3 or FFnet, but most writers (if they're honest) recall a time when they wrote something really derivative or decided to write a story in a universe they loved that didn't belong to them.

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I don't hate this place, but I do find myself wondering what I'm here for when it's 80% wank and 19% things that aren't even relevant to me. Rinse and repeat.

Bored with, rather than hate, I suppose.

you should read up on martin climate change.

control groups are essential to good science.

I don't know how they are as people, but when they get involved in discussion on here they're the worst combination of being tediously argumentative and willfully obtuse. And then sometimes, visp is just plain nasty to people for no reason.

More like how there are far less people who have, idk, Leo sun, Capricorn moon, Aries rising, Pisces in Jupiter and so on, than there are people who just have their Leo as their sun sign. A horoscope saying all Leos will meet a tall dark stranger the next day will obviously not apply to everyone who is a Leo. Nor would it fit everyone with the above combination.

And hey, I'm not saying it's rational nor that I believe in it wholeheartedly. It's more that I have a bit of a romanticised view on how the stars you are born under have an effect on your life.

the lilac has wilted where i live. ;_;

Same! I was really hoping for a Lapis secret too!

All I'm getting is stuff on Martin Weitzman, who's an economist.

I doubt that's what you're referencing, though~

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