I wonder about the role of incestuous amplification (http://www.cybercollege.com/ia.htm) in f_w. Nobody can join or post anonymously, so it's the same bunch of people talking to themselves - egging each other on, convincing themselves that this is how normal people behave. I don't think they realise how they look to fans who don't get their daily jollies by making fun of peeps who can't even defend themselves. Here in f!s there are a variety of topics and attitudes and anybody can stick their oar in, making the comm much less in danger of disappearing up its own backside. :-)