AYRT—I don’t like Kylo Ren, and that’s putting it mildly. But at least part of the reason is the films did a piss-poor job of fleshing out his character and history, including what Snoke’s abuse entailed. Kylo throws a lot of tantrums, idolizes Darth Vader, and in TLJ Snoke is a smug patronizing fucker to him. I’m predisposed to woobify and sympathize with villains, and even I was repulsed rather than intrigued by Kylo. If he was supposed to be sympathetic he should’ve had more to him than brooding and tantrums, and the films should’ve shown Snoke being a better puppeteer and worse creeper.