[ SECRET POST #4547 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4547 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's literally one city in a nation. Westeros is the nation. It was the equivalent of bombing a city, which is absolute an act of terrorism and generally a Bad Thing, but genocide involves systemic and deliberate extermination of a specific group of people.

I know it's a cool/evil-sounding word but it doesn't apply in this situation and your insistence that it does is weird.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if you know this, but it's fiction.

[kaijinscendre]

So now we are just going with stuff that could have happened? Well, Dany's body count would have been much higher if she had not been killed like a dog that got its first taste of blood. What with her having a nuke and telling her people that she would take Westeros by force. Of course, if we jump out of hypothetical land, Dany killed more people in the show than anyone else. She definitely killed more innocent women and children than anyone else.

[kaijinscendre]

Actually, it is more like killing all of New York. Each little place is like a state. They even all rule themselves like states!

Honestly, it is funny to me. The people splitting hairs about this remind me of Redditors who go, "Uh actually he is a hebephile NOT a pedophile," when a 30 year old has sex with a 13 year old.

Like, cool. Glad you can stick up for all those mass murderers and perpetrators of genocide.

[(Anonymous)]

Usually I roll my eyes at the notion of "purity policing" but...damn dude.

This is a major character in a major long-running TV show who was presented as a protagonist for basically an entire decade. People are bound to have strong feelings about her--positive or negative. Yours happen to be negative. It doesn't mean everyone who disagrees with you about a fictional person with magic powers is somehow a literal fascist.

[(Anonymous)]

Destroying New York wouldn't be an act of genocide.

I'm agreeing with you that she's a murderer and a terrorist and committed a horrific war crime on a massive scale because she threw a hissy fit for no apparent reason. It just wasn't a /genocide/, which has a specific intent and definition, good lord.

[kaijinscendre]

Okay, from now on I will say she is a perpetrator of a holocaust (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war).

[(Anonymous)]

At the very least we know Jaime doesn't have a moral problem with killing a large amount of people, since he still supported Cersei after she blew up the sept.

And my other point was about how one person can be worse than the other even if the other has a higher body count. Like, I'm sure Tormund or Sandor's body count is higher than the High Sparrow's, but the High Sparrow is definitely more awful.

[(Anonymous)]

There you go.

[kaijinscendre]

Except morally, Dany is worse. She wasn't bothered by her slaughter of thousands. She was mostly still horny for her nephew.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry Kaijin, you are right many times. This is not one of them. Describing what happened as "genocide" is just false.

[kaijinscendre]

Just going to call her holocaust perpetrator. Isn't as easy to say as genocidal maniac. Though, guess I could call her an almost genocidal maniac. She was going to be one once she started wiping out of all of Westeros.

[(Anonymous)]

This is all especially weird because in the new show, one of the very first things Moomin says is that's he's a grown up now.

Re: Good Omens fans - who was/is your ideal casting for Crowley and Aziraphale?

[(Anonymous)]

That is pretty brilliant. I would definitely watch that version.

[kaijinscendre]

After doing more research, Dany is Valerian, which is a separate ethnic group than the Andal people of Westeros. The Andal people also have their own sub ethnic groups.

[(Anonymous)]

even in the old comics [which have a separate canon from the books generally, anyway] moomin is living on his own and only moves in with his parents when he re-discovers them. There's absolutely no reason in almost any canon to perceive moomin as underage... his naive and simple nature is just representative of the author's feelings towards her own naive self. But he's ambiguous for anyone to relate to him, at any age.
Snufkin smokes a pipe and lives in a tent as a drifter and has been to jail, so I have to assume someone who thinks he's a teen has like... glanced at a piece of fanart and not watched or read anything.

[(Anonymous)]

She was saying the same thing Jaime was saying, about building a new world and the ends justifying the means.

"But after we've won and there's no one left to oppose us, when people are living peacefully in the world she built, do you really think they'll wring their hands over the way she built it?"

"It's not easy to see something that's never been before. A good world."

[kaijinscendre]

Cool! So which one burnt thousands of innocent people alive?

[(Anonymous)]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QHYL-uiLJ14

[kaijinscendre]

Uh, you do know Jaime had nothing to do with that?

Also, I think this might be a BIT higher kill count. https://youtu.be/flXrq9OJfOg Just FYI, there are over 500,000 people in King's Landing.

So who killed more people? Jaime or Dany?

[(Anonymous)]

Jaime still supported and defended Cersei afterwards, and helped her finish the job of wiping out the Tyrells.

[kaijinscendre]

Okay, at this point I have to assume you are a troll because no one is genuinely this stupid. Well, you could be republican, they love ignoring facts. I love how never answered who has killed more people. Because you know it was Dany. She killed hundreds of thousands of people. She is a monster who was thankfully killed before she could wipe out millions of more people. =)

Re: Good Omens fans - who was/is your ideal casting for Crowley and Aziraphale?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I like that

[(Anonymous)]

I've already said how having a higher body count doesn't necessarily mean you're worse (Sandor/Tormund, High Sparrow). But Jaime clearly is ok with blowing up cities if it's his side doing it, so he doesn't have much of a moral high ground.

And even if you want to argue that Dany is worse, Jaime is still a shitty person and it's still ironic condemning her for hurting children when he pushed one out a window,

Plus, Dany hasn't raped anyone last time I checked.

[kaijinscendre]

Enjoy trying to downplay a monster killing hundreds of thousands of people! Sorry your hero turned out to be a baddie!

I'm going to just be over here watching her get stabbed after trying to fuck her nephew among the ashes of the innocent people she killed. Have a good day!

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