i think we're understanding mekkio's point differently. i think previous anon understood it in the way i understood it. mekkio was not as clear as they needed to be, in any case, and you are furthering what you think is her point but may not have been. which is fine, as it is a point regardless, but, well, this argument is now pointless, is all i'm trying to say. arguing over technicalities is tedious when things are somewhat unclear.