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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-05 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2924 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2924 ⌋

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lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
What's Fanlore? *is a clueless dumbass*

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
OP

http://fanlore.org/wiki/Fanlore:About

It's another project by the OTW, the group behind AO3. It's a wiki about fans and fandom, as told by fans.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
DA

... that explains the article on Michaela Ecks/purplepopple. (Of FanHistory fame.)
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-06 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. Sounds interesting, but not really my cup of tea, except as keeping track of folks like Andy Blake or MsScribe, and that doesn't seem its thing. Thanks anyway, OP!
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-01-06 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Is it primarily out-of-universe, or does it do in-universe as well? I'd love to catalogue the buildup of fanon in some fandoms. (Two words: bat ponies.)

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[personal profile] amalthia 2015-01-06 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't there another fandom wiki??? Maybe that one has more content?
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[personal profile] silverr 2015-01-06 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it's at famlore.org, for one.

It's a wiki about fandom, with a unique concentration of info on the history of contemporary fandom. Among other nifty things, there are scans of old print fanzines from the 1970s (and reviews as well).

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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-06 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Famlore, for all your family lore needs, like the time Uncle Billy sunk the car in the middle of a not-so-frozen river...
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-01-06 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I don't visit often, but I must say their SGA page is nice and the Starsky and Hutch one is epic. (Though I haven't actually read the entire Starsky and Hutch page, it's seriously impressive.)

I tend to forget it exists, so maybe others do too?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
No joke, that awesome Starsky & Hutch page is what made me interested in the fandom in the first place. :)

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[personal profile] solticisekf 2015-01-06 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I like fanlore.

Can you ask people what they think the notable works are? You can do it under a sock account, which is basically anon.


btw, what I don't want is for tvTropes to get the finding. I prefer it as it is.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's a good idea, and I've considered similar ones before, but it would just be too easy to trace back to me. I'm literally the only person who's touched any of the articles in the fandom in question since around late October. And no, I wouldn't want TV Tropes finding it either. The culture there is totally wrong to handle Fanlore's goals well.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
the tvtropes kickstarted is already over and they made their goal

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[personal profile] ex_mek82 2015-01-06 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Fanlore... is an interesting thing.

On the one hand, I like that it's primary focus is documenting days of fandoms past, particularly up until about 2007-8ish. Hell, if it wasn't for Fanlore, I wouldn't have known something like Starsky & Hutch had as big of a fandom following it did. Or the fact that someone else was right up there with Ms.Scribe in terms of sockpuppet manipulation. And some interesting tidbits from the early days of Star Wars fandom (just look up the Duncan Sisters. If they even tried to voice their unfavorable-borderline-misogynistic opinions of Princess Leia today, they'd be chased out of the fandom faster than you can say 'utinii').

But I do wish there was a bit more for modern era fandoms (that aren't Supernatural, Sherlock, Doctor Who, or Teen Wolf). But given how, for lack of a better term, chaotic things are in the Tumblr era (i.e. hard to follow conversations, changing URLs, et al), I don't blame people for not wanting to even try to keep up.

I do think they need to advertise it a little more. Most people I know don't know it exists, and some of these folks use AO3. Maybe if you started dropping hints or just talking about it off-the-record, without really saying 'Hey, could you help me edit it', maybe someone might see it, get interested, and start editing? Nothing ventured, nothing gained, after all.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-01-06 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, Star Wars fandom. I was so boggled when I saw how nasty the Church of Han/Cathedral of Luke wars were. But IA so much that it doesn't have enough information about more modern fandoms, especially the ones that skew younger. I think the most prolific contributers aren't a very diverse bunch, which is the problem.

I keep meaning to edit the M*A*S*H and West Wing pages, to give a little back for all the information I got about Star Trek TOS/Star Wars/Starsky & Hutch/pre-HBP Harry Potter BNF-dominated fandom. But I'm such a lazy bum.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-06 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, I just got sucked into the Rat Patrol sockpuppet wank. This is fucking GOLD.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't have known something like Starsky & Hutch had as big of a fandom following it did.

you couldn't tell that from the 5 secrets that get posted here a week?

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[personal profile] othellia 2015-01-06 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's one of the thing that makes me the saddest about the tumblr era. It lends itself well to general trends and memes, but you don't get that 1-on-1 drama that made so much of the '00s PURE WANKY GOLD.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-01-06 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
PM me if you want! I love fanlore and if you happen to share a fandom with me, I'd love to help.

I really got fascinated by it sometime last year, looking at various old fandoms' letterzines, but I find that the amount of information available is really uneven depending on the fandom. There's some fandoms which I know are really varied and huge and rich, but which have very meager and skewed information on fanlore.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm confused. Are you saying you wish fanlore was as popular as AO3? Because they're fundamentally different things, and it's clear why an archive would have more activity than a wiki.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I love fanlore, and I definitely wish it had more content. I'd love it to be the kind of website you could kill hours on, like tvtropes.
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[personal profile] aralias 2015-01-06 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
agreed. although i do think it's something of a catch 22 - i'm not really interested in going unless it has info about my fandom; i don't need to add anything if there's inf about my fandom.

doctor who - interestingly - was mentioned in someone's comment above as a fandom that the commenter DOESNT want more information on, but fascinatingly there's almost nothing on fanlore besides zine listings. that fandom is almost entirely un-documented. and i was in it for many years, but only on a fringe bit, so... i've helped write an extensive doctor/master page. that's the bit i know about. but i can't describe doctor who fandom - though i could ADD to a longer page. if there was intriguing stuff to look up and find out more about.. i could help. but there's so little!

whereas i keep adding ot the blake's 7 content because mrs potato head and other high-volume editors have done loads of it for me. and some of it i know to be wrong - thus, i correct it. blake has a pretty good presence on fanlore, and it IS fascinating, and very useful. partly because it's THE source on the net to talk about fanzines, and i never needed or wanted to do that in doctor who fandom.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd find it more interesting if all the updated articles weren't mostly fanzines I don't care about.