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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-28 07:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2673 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-04-29 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well there's at least two with pre and post Crisis

and I'm not a DC fan so I'm sure there are more than that
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[personal profile] applemagpie 2014-04-29 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, characterizations have changed over time, although old characterizations have pretty much stayed in the past. I guess I just feel like there really is only one 'in-character' way to portray characters like Superman and his relationship with Lois, for example. Feel free to disagree with me, of course.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-29 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Well, Superman/Lois is pretty deep and basic, yeah. That's one of the load-bearing structures of the DC Universe, so all we've got are about five good versions of that.

You got your Golden Age gutsy-reporter Lois with Kinda Scary Superman, you got your Silver Age duel of wits mindgames over Clark's identity, you got your post-Crisis slow-burn courtship with badass 80s Lois initially really hating Clark Kent, you got your 90s-00s married Lois and Clark (my personal favorite), and you got your Grant Morrison notion of the two of them being an eternal couple who will always be alive and together in some form.

Their dynamic is different in each one of these, and each one of them exists in that wonderful superhero superposition of canon/noncanon.

I don't say this to take anything away from the characters or your reading of them, just that, like I say, that's the joy of the fandom. There's a LOT of different versions of these folks.
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[personal profile] applemagpie 2014-04-29 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, I see what you mean now. But aren't all the versions of Clark/Lois essentially kind of the same, just at different stages in their relationship? (especially in regards to the post-Crisis versions. Really not commenting on the Golden Age version, haha). I meant there is only one way to write Lois/Clark - it doesn't matter if they're married, or if Lois knows Superman's identity yet - but Lois should be independent and never be the damsel-in-distress, she should eventually be in love with Clark Kent, not just Superman, and Clark should completely admire and respect Lois, and will want to love her as Clark, not as Superman. If they're not written that way you'll probably find me complaining that it's written out of character.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-29 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, I think even those requirements don't cover all the versions. After all, when Lois had her own title, it was "Superman's Girlfriend Lois Lane", which doesn't speak to a lot of independence on a conceptual level, if not a character level. And Margot Kidder's Lois in the Donner Superman films was terrific, but she WAS constantly in distress and being rescued. Yet those remain two very popular incarnations of the character.