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⌈ Secret Post #2673 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Idols

[otakugal15]

See, this is why I'm side-eyeing everyone who just jumped and started, essentially, calling the OP a racist.

If the OP had called a PERSON a tarbaby, then we'd have a case for racism here. But they didn't. It was a "sticky" situation they were talking about. They used, as you said, the correct terminology it means in ths situation. But everyone here is so goddamn sensitive to any and all words here that they only saw the one meaning of the word and jumped on the OP.

It's fucking ridiculous.

It's the "a spade is a spade" comment. I've never in my life seen or heard it used in any other context except using it in the "sometimes a cigar is a cigar" type way. Same goddamn meaning. so other meaning there.

This is why I've gotten such a negative outlook on people here and other parts of the internet because it's way to black and white these days when talking. There's not fucking middle ground.

Re: Idols

[ketita]

//nod
Yeah, see, I get the "intent doesn't matter" thing. You say something that's offensive, just because you didn't mean to offend doesn't make it inoffensive (I don't think that kind of thing deserves screaming vitriol, but I get it).

But this is a different case. This is saying something which is not offensive only people misunderstanding it to be offensive. I agree that there are probably places where it would be prudent not to use the expression - if you know that there's a high likelihood of misunderstanding, for example. But on the internet people can always look up the reference if they're not familiar, and it doesn't have the same immediacy that spoken conversation does.

And okay, I just looked up the "call a spade a spade" thing and wow, I had no clue that it was ever used as a slur. I knew the literary reference (which according to Wikipedia FAR predates its existence as a slur). Again, I can see people in the know trying to avoid it so as not to cause offense - and that's okay! But people should also be aware of these, and if somebody happens to use the phrase they are not actually being racist and it's important to remember that....