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Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[dethtoll]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HighFantasy

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LowFantasy

Read those two and compare, that should sort it out for you. The tl;dr is that high fantasy tends to be less morally ambiguous and more epic. Low fantasy is an attempt at more realistic (or someone's idea of realistic) stories. In other words, it's Lord of the Rings (high fantasy) vs, say, Dragon Age (low fantasy) or (depending on who you ask) Game of Thrones.

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

This is where I'm confused. So would low fantasy have something like magic, but less 'good vs. evil' elements that high fantasy would have? So it's not necessarily the fantastical elements that make high fantasy 'high fantasy', but the moral elements and its 'epicness'?
I will read those pages, thanks.

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[dethtoll]

That's pretty much it. Low fantasy, even if it does have magic, tends to treat its own internal politics, settings and systems with an eye towards realism, which leads to both the heroes and the enemy being of ambiguous morality.

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

Ok, that makes sense, thanks!

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[a_potato]

See, I disagree with this (and with TVTropes' definition). My understanding of high vs low fantasy has always been that it's about the world rather than about morality or politics. If a work is set in a world where it's generally accepted that physics allow for magic and that biology allows for fantastical creatures, then it's high fantasy.

Dragon Age is high fantasy, because it takes place in a world where the fantastic is commonplace. The political and moral implications are secondary.

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

OP of thread

This is the point about the difference between high fantasy and low fantasy that I'm still confused about. Is there actually a consensus on the definition of the terms?

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[a_potato]

Well, seeing that someone disagrees with me and that there is another set of definitions has made me think that there is a grey area. But there are still some aspects of high fantasy that I think are rather set:

-The world exists apart from ours, either in its characterization or its physics
-The fantastical is ordinary

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, those do seem to be what is most agreed on.

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely agree. To me, high and low fantasy aren't about politics at all. They are about the world, and magic inherent in the world.

High fantasy: Almost always invented world with INHERENT magical properties. Magic is normal, and most likely, so are magical creatures.

Low fantasy: Possibly invented world (but probably not, or at least, alternate universe of our own world), magic is not prevailing or normal, or at least do not define the world.

Dragon Age is definitely high fantasy. I don't think high fantasy is, or should be, constrained by including "definite good vs evil" or barring any "normal" things like politics.

Re: Difference between high and low fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I would say a better example would be Lord of the Rings (high fantasy) vs. The Dresden Files (low fantasy). I agree with a_potato, that it's the setting and world-building that makes it high vs. low. GoT to me is high fantasy. What with the glowing green magickal napalm in a world just barely into the Iron Age....