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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-02 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2677 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2677 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Scribbler]


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[bioshock infinite: burial at sea]


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[True Detective]


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[fire emblem/super smash bros]


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[World of Warcraft]


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12. [SPOILERS for Hannibal]



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13. [SPOILERS for Bioshock: Infinite]



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15. [WARNING for rape/abuse I'm assuming? Ramsay/Theon stuff]
http://i.imgur.com/Xo0GSkI.png



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16. [WARNING for mental illness/hospitals]



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17. [WARNING for depression]



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18. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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19. [WARNING for rape]

[Game of Thrones]








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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-05-02 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
PR team maybe? I think it was more of a cultural thing. In German, you make an error, you admit the error so then you can correct it. That's how you save face. I'd hate to call being the cause of WWII a simple world like "error." But you get the idea. Now in Japan, the opposite is true. You never, ever admit your error. You deny it. You sweep it under a rug. You do not speak about it. To do so, to admit you did something wrong is to lose face.

So, while Germany sat there and said, "Yes, we did this." Or the classic line of, "We were following orders." Japan has denied and/or downplayed everything and tried to hide evidence. They have been very, very good at this. So, their atrocities are less known because their is less evidence. (The dead cannot speak.) Thus, Nazis are more known culturally world wide than the Japanese soldiers of WWII.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-02 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Except the people of Nazi Germany were culpable in Hitler's rise of power, the people of Imperial Japan didn't have anything to do with what the armies did, so I think they're less responsible,.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-05-02 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, come on. It was both a case of "people following orders." Populations have over thrown kings and armies because they didn't like how their country was run. The Japanese went along with everything because just like the Germans they through they were racially superior and had a right to rule and to do that by any means possible was the correct way of getting things done.

Germany and Japan were very similar in that regard. How they differ was how they reacted after the war and they had own up to their roles in the war.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-02 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think the civilian Japanese even knew what Imperial Japan was doing at the time, the Germans knew about how the Jews and other groups were being treated and supported it, even if they didn't know the full extent of what was happening.

Furthermore, I think the reason why less people go after Japan now is because of how they suffered from the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki; Germany never faced that kind of punishment.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Japan also joined in the fight against Mother Russia after WW2, a stalwart ally on Stalin's borders. Germany split in two, with one half actively trying to top Stalin in atrocity and evil, which was pretty much Third Reich: Part Two. Hell some East German officers even got to wear their old Nazi uniforms. So Germany never got the chance to make a clean break, part of it was always the Red Peril and still Nazi-ish in media right up until the wall fell. Japan got to make a clean break and after a time being the comic relief played by Mickey Rooney they could move onto something more heroic due to being allies against commieland. And Japan also bought half of Hollywood as soon as they could (the other half the jews got, another reason Germans got the shaft) to influence their image.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
the other half the jews got, another reason Germans got the shaft

wow
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-03 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Very little of what you are saying is accurate.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
So Japan wasn't a US ally post war and an American staging area? There was no east-west Germany split that persisted until the end of the 1980s with the East part being a Soviet ally, and the Stazi weren't just as evil as the old Nazis and their uniforms did not involve the the same visual cues? Japanese companies did not purchase large chunks of Hollywood companies? Mickey Rooney was not in Breakfast at Tiffany's and Steven Spielberg does not exist? Okay then.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
so steven spielberg represents half of hollywood?
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-03 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
And now I'm thinking of George Lucas yelling I'M NOT A JEW

Thank you, South Park.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Really? Your evidence for "Jews bought half of Hollywood" is a single person who is Jewish? That's weak as shit.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
It's an anecdote, and the inference is very unfortunate, but there is a huge Jewish presence in Hollywood and to deny that is just silly.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Having worked in Hollywood for a number of years, there is a significant Jewish presence in Hollywood. They are still outnumbered by gentiles.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
die die die you ignorant, anti-Semitic piece of shit

eh...

[personal profile] philippos42 2014-05-05 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Dresden and Berlin were bombed to rubble, killing tens of thousands. Not A-Bombs, but still massive strikes.

To the OP, I think one big problem is that it's not considered commercial to call out the Yanks or the English for their historic crimes against humanity.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that the US unleashed two nukes on Japan might have helped with Japan's image too.
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[personal profile] alexi_lupin 2014-05-03 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
I think it makes it easier for Japan to construct a view of their own history in which they were victims, in at least some part.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
And for the Americans to continue to kid themselves that anything they do is morally justifiable in the name of FREEDOM. Their version of it, in which they tell people what will make them free and then impose it on them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
Kind of hard to feel sorry for them when they did bomb Pearl Harbor without a warning. (Even some of the higher ups in the Japanese military thought it was a bad idea to mess with Americans.) The Americans did drop fliers for days warning the Japanese to surrender or else they would destroy the place. And the Japanese government told the public to ignore them that the Americans were full of it. If the Japanese government cared about its people, they would have moved them out of the way. Hell, they knew they were losing and they should have surrendered. The Emperor wanted to. But the military was willing to go down until every man, woman and child was dead. They even made an attempt on the Emperor's life in order to prolong the war.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Pearl Harbor was a military base, and therefore a valid target. If the sailors and the marines (marines being the navy's soldiers) didn't want bombed or shot at they ought not to have joined the military. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were primarily civilian population centers. That is the difference between war crime (attacking a military target without previous declaration of war) and crime against humanity (deliberately wiping out unarmed civilians). They are both bad, but one is much, much, much worse. America was the worst of the two there. Oh, and "they started it" is not a valid defense for anything after 3rd grade.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not disagreeing with you, and I think your post is a valid response to the post you're responding to, so please understand that I don't think you're wrong.

But I do want to make the point that Japan did also commit horrific crimes against humanity during the occupations of China and really the whole rest of Asia. This in no way justifies dropping the atomic bombs, but I think it's important to point that out - attacking Pearl Harbor before the declaration of war was the worst thing the Japanese did to the Americans, but it was not by any means the worst thing the Japanese did.