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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-03 03:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2678 ]


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[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-05-04 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Nah.

You seem to be misreading me. Atheism as a belief leaves little to no room for negotiation in its assertion of an absolute truth. "I do not believe there are any gods" is clear no matter out hard you try to couch it in "but that's like just my opinion man, you are free to think whatever you want, etc etc".

It doesn't give you the room for pretending both your and my views are true that something like agnosticism does.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-04 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ah.

Well, I still think you're wrong - partly because this isn't the part of atheism that people seem to object to, but also because the vast majority of religions also make these kinds of claims to absolute truth. If that was the issue, they should object as heartily to religion.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-04 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
Agnosticism and atheism are not aligned against each other - you can be an atheistic agnostic, just like you can be an atheistic gnostic. You can be a Christian agnostic, even.

The short and the long of this stick is that if you're not at least a little agnostic (i.e. acknowledging the absolute truth that neither religious nor anti-religious positions are provable), you just come across as a bit of a dick, and people dislike that. Both in religious people and in atheists.

This extreme position is more present on the internet in atheists than in religious people, which is why atheists get more flack for it.