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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-06 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2681 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2681 ⌋

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forgottenjester: (Default)

Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-05-07 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
CONGRATULATIONS!

YOUR DIALECT HAS A KICKASS NAME.

WE WILL FUMBLE WITH OUR HANDS PAST EACH OTHER. LINGUISTICALLY. I'M IN. WAIT, NORWEGIAN ISN'T BASED OFF LSF LIKE ASL IS, RIGHT?
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-05-07 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I AM PRETTY PROUD OF THAT ONE, BUT I DID HAVE TO CHOOSE MY WORDS CAREFULLY!

YEAH IT KINDA DOES!

WE COULD, YOU ARE A LOT BETTER THAN ME THO! I JUST KNOW THE ALPHABET/NUMBERS AND ENOUGH SIGNS TO GIVE A DEAF PERSON DIRECTIONS IF THE NEED ARISES, OR HAVE A SHORT CONVERSATION.

I LOOKED AT THE LSF ALPHABET AND IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE NORWEGIAN ONE THAT I WAS TAUGHT, WHICH IS THE ONE HANDED SIGN LANGUAGE, WE ALSO HAVE TWO HANDED SIGN LANGUAGE AND "SPEECH TO SIGN LANGUAGE", THE LATTER MOSTLY USED BY HARD OF HEARING AND PEOPLE WITH LEARNING DIFFICULTIES, IT IS ALL EVEN MORE COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO STANDARD NORWEGIAN SIGN LANGUAGE LIKE ASL, SO IT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM COUNTY TO COUNTY. THERE IS A STANDARD SET OF SIGN LANGUAGE YOU LEARN IF YOU GO TO SCHOOL TO BE A INTERPRETER, BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS THE ONE DEAF PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES USE, IT IS SIMILAR, BUT NOT EXACTLY THE SAME. AND I COULD PROBABLY WRITE PAGES ABOUT THIS, BUT I ASSUME YOU GET THE PICTURE?

BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, DEAF PEOPLE TEND TO NOT HAVE TOO MANY ISSUES TRANSLATING THE SIGNS, IT IS WORSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TAUGHT IT AT A LATER AGE TO COMPENSATE AND/OR UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES IN SIGNS. I COULD OFF COURSE BE COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT I AM PRETTY SURE I READ A PAPER ON IT, OR WAS TOLD IT BY SOMEONE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-05-07 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
NAW, I GET YOU. I TOOK A SOCIOLINGUISTIC CLASS IN ASL ON A BUNCH OF SIGN LANGUAGES. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE JUST SPECIFICALLY DIDN'T GO INTO NORWAY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT EUROPE.

I DUNNO ABOUT THAT. I KNOW YOU CAN'T JUST SIGN TWO SEPARATE LANGUAGES AT EACH OTHER, LIKE BSL AND ASL, BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FAMILIES SO THERE'S NO CROSSOVER WORDS. IF THEY'RE IN THE SAME FAMILY YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME THINGS THROUGH. AS FOR WHO CAN INTERPRET WHAT, THAT DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE AT LANGUAGES. I'VE SEEN DEAF AND HEARING SUCCEED AND FAIL EQUALLY.
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-05-07 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
OH COOL, YEAH PROBABLY NOT THE MOST USEFUL COUNTRY TO LOOK AT TBH. HERE IS THE ALPABETH I KNOW: http://www.acm.no/materiell/handalfabet/alfa1h.gif

I'M PROBABLY REMEMBERING SOMETHING WRONG, I AM NOW APPROACHING 45 HOURS AWAKE...
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-05-07 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
SOME OF THE LETTERS ARE THE SAME AND SOME AREN'T. HERE'S ASL.
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-05-07 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
THEN THE QUESTION IS WHY IS THE LSF ALPHABET LESS SIMILAR TO THE NORWEGIAN ONE THAN ASL?
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-05-07 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
BECAUSE ASL IS BASED ON LSF, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ASL WAS ALTERED A LOT FROM LSF TO FIT AMERICAN DEAF. I COULD GO INTO THE WHOLE HISTORY SOMETIME BUT MOST PEOPLE FIND IT KINDA BORING. I LIKE IT THOUGH.
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-05-07 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
I REALLY DID WORD MYSELF BADLY THERE I SEE, ESL AND NORWEGIAN SIGN LANGUAGE ALPHABET ARE MORE ALIKE, THAN THE NORWEGIAN AND THE LSF ONE.

AND I WILL HAVE TO RETRACT AN EARLIER STATEMENT, YES NSL IS BASED ON THE LSF, BUT NOT DIRECTLY IT IS BASED ON THE DANISH ONE (WHICH WAS BASED ON LSF), AND IT IS NOT RECOGNIZED AS A LANGUAGE IN NORWAY.

MADAGASCAR USES NORWEGIAN SIGN LANGUAGE THO!

HERE IS THE SADLY REALLY WATERED DOWN ENGLISH WIKI ARTICLE IF YOU WANNA READ IT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Sign_Language

I WOULD PROBABLY FIND IT INTERESTING, BUT IT WILL HAVE TO BE ANOTHER DAY!
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-05-07 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
THEN THE SEPARATION MAKES EVEN MORE SENSE.

YEAH, YOU FIND POCKETS LIKE THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD. YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND GO, "OH HELLO LANGUAGE. HOW DID YOU GET THERE?"

YES, PREFERABLE WHILE I AM NOT CONTINUOUSLY HOLDING SHIFT.
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-05-07 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
YUP...

IN THE MADAGASCAR CASE THERE IS A SIMPLE EXPLANATION: MISSIONARIES.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CAPSLOCK KEY? BUT YEAH, IT IS SO WEIRD DISCUSSING THIS IN ALL CAPS...
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-05-07 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
YEAH, MOST ARE EXPLAINED THAT WAY.

REAL WOMEN HOLD SHIFT.
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Re: CAPLOCKS THREAD

[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-05-07 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
YUP!

SURE, SURE...