[ SECRET POST #2686 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2686 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/Wdss9fb.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

From what I can see, it has two white people. Mischa Barton who is playing a reporter (?) investigating the shady practices (most likely to reveal the cover up to a Western newspaper/audience). And Martin Sheen, who is the antagonist Warren Anderson (a real person). Every other character in the movie seems to be Indian (or is at least not white). Come on, Martin Sheen is playing a literal white devil, you are probably going to enjoy that!

[(Anonymous)]

It's still the white folks' names on the poster though. Top billing for people who didn't have that much to do with the real heart and bones of the movie.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if you understand how movies work, but they do that because those named are recognizable. Look at the cast list. The only other name American audiences would recognize is Kal Penn.

[(Anonymous)]

In cases like this that is a problem. It makes the story look like it's all about the white people again, marginalizing the people it's really about, as well as the actors who really DO make the movie what it is.

[diet_poison]

...no, it's not. It's to get sales. If they listed the actors people don't recognize, the movie would get less publicity, and isn't that a bit counter-productive?

[(Anonymous)]

Right?
And you can see it everywhere. The most recognizable name(s)are on the posters, no matter if their character(s) gets murdered 13 minutes in. See Gwyneth Paltrow and Contagion for example.
It's marketing.

This way people who never thought about seeing the movie, will at least think about it, then hopefully go and then maybe become a fan of an actor whose name wasn't on the poster, because they're impressed with the performance/think they're pretty/other reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Or how they pushed Brad Pitt in 12 Years A Slave even though he was only in it for like...2 minutes

[(Anonymous)]

Like nobody ever watches movies with a 'cast of unknowns'. There are ways to get publicity besides who's in it and I wouldn't call Mischa Barton big box office magic. While I do understand the name recognition value, that argument doesn't hold the water Hollywood thinks it does. 'Foreign' actors aren't always that foreign to people in the west. At the very least, they could have stuck Yadav's name on the end, or put Kal Penn in the middle instead of tacking him on like an afterthought. Because putting the white people's names front and center sends the message, once again, that even a story like this is only worth telling if it's through a white lens, and that the audience is too stupid to empathize if that viewpoint isn't there.

But a star's billing can often be part of their contract.

[(Anonymous)]

And can often be a part of salary negotiations. Movies are absolutely a business. And with regards to name recognition, if you have someone people know, you use their name for the marketing - it would be awfully strange not to use such an easy tool at your disposal.

[(Anonymous)]

That's because nobody in this country wants to see a film about a bunch of stupid dumbass foreigners.

[(Anonymous)]

Come on, Martin Sheen is playing a literal white devil, you are probably going to enjoy that!

That's a little bit patronizing, don't you think. I don't think the problem is so much the number of white people in the movie as the relative importance being placed on them. Mischa Barton's character isn't where the real pain is, and Martin Sheen was kinda bland, tbh. It's just not their damn story, either historically or in the film.

[(Anonymous)]

They made a movie out of this? God. Please tell me they're donating money from this to the victims or something?

Warren Anderson is currently living a life of luxury in New York. He deserves to be sent back to India to face trial. I'd love to believe that this movie will lead to that. My gut tells me it won't though.

[(Anonymous)]

One can hope, but so far it looks like all this movie will do is break your heart, and keep the memory alive (not that it ever died for some of us).

[visp]

India's got a pretty large film industry. I'm sure they can make their own version if they like.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty hard to choreograph though.

[(Anonymous)]

This is their version, actually. Just, marketing shit, you know.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not, actually, although the director is Indian. But yes, marketing shit.

[(Anonymous)]

...maybe it's because those two white people were involved in the actual events (not the actors of course; the people who the actors are playing)?

This really isn't a case of tossing in random white people.

[(Anonymous)]

Mischa Barton's character is not a real person. It's just unfortunate marketing, the idea that people won't watch movies without names they recognize etc. Kal Penn doesn't even have that big a role and his name's up there.

[(Anonymous)]

We don't 'figure out' how to relate to someone who's not the same gender or race as us, we just usually like the stories and characters for what they are. Otherwise we'd have to 'figure out' how to relate to people of other races that aren't white.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! Please pass the note to the Film Execs who insist that their precious white boy demographic can't possibly relate to anybody else.

[(Anonymous)]

So much this! I want to take every SJW who uses this specious argument, and beat them about the head with LeGuin's Hainish Cycle stories/books/etc.

[(Anonymous)]

Possibly a decent human being figures it out so early they aren't aware that it was there to be figured out. Or it could be a by-product of so much entertainment in this hemisphere being all about a white male, that anybody else gets accustomed to bridging any gaps early. Because there is definitely a belief out there that white boys won't buy tickets for movies that don't have a white boy hero.

[(Anonymous)]

you're arguing OP's point, genius