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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-11 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2686 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2686 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely agree with your point, I do. Horrible things happens and they should show it. The Wire is possibly my favorite TV show ever and there's lots of horrible stuff in it - I even love the Song of Ice and Fire books - there's rape and murder gallore and it's a good thing that he writes about that.

What I hate with the adaption is not that horrible things happen to women, it's how they happen. Women gets lined up naked, graphically raped in ways that in no way furthers the plot - rather, the plot pretends it never happened. Like, the scene where Theon gets his dick cut off - I love penis, and for me that could have been the worst scene in the entire season because for some reason the prospect of NO SEX really upsets me - even that scene was designed and directed to turn on the average male viewer. I don't want to see myself represented as a sex object.

And I don't want to see myself missing at all either, and if absolutely every character that's "out in the field" firing guns and saving people is a white man, I feel a little sick - surely half of the world's population can't be hiding underground or being busy housewifing in whatever alternative universe the series is set in?
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SPOILERS GOT then, here and above.

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-11 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's entirely about perception then - but the Theon torture was definitely the part of GoT that I found most difficult to watch over all seasons, hands down. And I think it was deliberately made that way. To part with the girls before castration didn't strike me so much as titillating, so much as emphasizing what he's about to lose. So, it made sense to me story-wise and I didn't perceive it as gratuitous.

I agree the female/male nudity ratio is skewed quite prominently towards women (and in that sense I found the brothel scenes worse than violent scenes, because they just seem to showcase nudity without it contributing much to the plot). That being said, though, using sex as a political tool IS part of the plot. So while I do think GoT has some problems with the way it sows women, I also think sex and violence are inherently parts of how that story is told.

I do get your point, I just see some of those shows differently, and am not inherently bothered by some shows mainly focusing on white male protagonists (though more variation over the overall TV landscape would be nice).

Re: SPOILERS GOT then, here and above.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I don't think you can ignore the fact that you can get away with showing a lot more female nudity on screen than you can male nudity. That's just the way the current ratings system is.