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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-11 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2686 ]


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Re: Controversial opinions

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-05-11 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
A reproductive right is being given the freedom to choose to have children or not, no matter my income level, education level, social class, race, ethnicity, etc.

I think you are overly concerned with money, for one thing. Having money doesn't always make a better home life. In fact, I would say that beyond the ability to provide the basic necessities, having money has no bearing on one's ability to raise children. Children born to parents who can "afford" them can still be placed without their consent in a bad situation from which they can't remove themselves.

And, your line about a baby being a helpless person placed in a situation without its consent is naive bullshit. I mean, yeah, technically, it's true.

But, you are essentially advocating governmental checks reproduction because a baby can't consent to being born, which wrests the ability to choose to reproduce out of the hands of the individual and into the many hands of bureaucracy since a baby can NEVER consent to bring born.

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm, if you can afford the basic necessities, you CAN afford a child. I said you shouldn't have children if you can't afford them. I never said you had to be rich. That's your interpretation. And I know rich people can suck as parents just as much as anyone else, thanks.

No. I never said anything about law or government. I said "I think you shouldn't". You are the one who started in with rights. You mentioned the rights of the parents, so I countered with the rights of the child.
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Re: Controversial opinions

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-05-12 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Children are afforded rights, and there are organizations whose job it is to protect children. Children can never give consent to be born, which is why we must give the rights to choose to reproduce to their parents.

Like I said, I agree with the principle that children should be taken care of, but the suggestion that people should wait until they can "afford" children is not a suggestion that has any basis in reality. I don't believe in curtailing the reproductive liberty of anyone.