[ SECRET POST #2686 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2686 ⌋

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OP!

[(Anonymous)]

First of all - THANKS! I'll def look into Orphan Black - I really want a show to point at go THAT'S WHAT TV SHOULD BE LIKE, haha. Like, really, thanks, I was terribly angry when I wrote this secret and I think it would help me to watch something with a female lead that's not aimed towards young teenagers or about clothes in any way.

... I actually quit Hannibal, and didn't hear about the shitstorm, so I can't really comment on the situation, because it's so much about context - Sherlock is terrible though, and I will not watch the next season. (Honestly I managed to completely miss that Irene was lesbian to start with too jesus). But I agree that out of the examples, Hannibal is perhaps the most innocent one, it just happened to be the most recent in my collection about two white tortured males.

GoT is my guilty pleasure, I hate it, I rage against it, but I can't stop watching urrghh.

But yes, I agree, I sometimes I really do enjoy shows with a less-than-stellar feminist view, but it's never the same as when the joy I feel like a well-written female kicks ass - it just will never be like it used to, back before I joined the internet and got educated and started noticing these things. I enjoy them, but it's like, an empty sort of "this-plot-is-really-captivating-WOAH" rather than "YOU GO [person]!!", you know? Even male characters I get like slightly bitter about if there isn't a kickass girl anywhere in the show and it makes me like the males less. Same with all-white casts.

Re: OP!

[(Anonymous)]

Go forth and enjoy, OP! Orphan Black should be right up your alley.

Actually, another great example of something problematic, but also really interesting to watch/read, is Silence of The Lambs. Because on the one hand, you have Clarice Starling, who is an iconic female character. (There's also an emphasis on the tension that women face, having to exist in a world dominated by men, which really resonated with me.)

But on the other hand - holy hell, it does not do trans people any favours at all! And the psychology in it is an unfortunate product of its time.

So... I guess it's where you personally draw the line for what you can stomach, and what you can't. I can't stomach GoT, at all. Not even as a guilty pleasure. But I can watch Alien, whereas for other people, that might be too much for them.

Re: OP!

[(Anonymous)]

Who knows if anyone's still around here but I agree w/ this thread totally and I'd like to add a recommendation for Grey's Anatomy and Gilmore Girls, both great shows and on a recent rewatch I noticed being very feminist friendly I guess!!! Also both with female showrunners, EVEN better tbh. Also if scifi's your thing I want to talk about Farscape because holy shiiit is that show the most perfect show in the whole world or what gosh