[ SECRET POST #2686 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2686 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Controversial opinions

[dethtoll]

Whoa whoa whoa WHOA.

I think the anon was fairly polite to you, yet your reaction is to tear their head off like they're the stereotypical dissent-hating baby-murderin' feminazi you claim harass you so much.

Re: Controversial opinions

[ibbity]

Knee jerk. It usually starts like this, then moves into the "kill yourself" no matter how polite I am or they began. And they did, in fact, tell me that I was an enemy of all women and make a couple of lovely strawmen out of me. And please don't accuse me of calling people "feminazis" when a) I didn't; b) it's a very rude term that I don't use; and c) I've said several times that I don't have a problem with feminists as such, only with this issue and the way that I've been treated over it. Also, I have seen a few people say "I'm prochoice but this video crosses the line into disturbing territory," so I am not the only person who found it unsettling or interpreted it as a celebration of abortion (especially considering some of the things she said about it, how "awestruck" she was that all of this could happen.)

Re: Controversial opinions

[(Anonymous)]

The anon made assumptions about her position and called her an enemy of women. That's...not very polite.

Re: Controversial opinions

[dethtoll]

Man I'm not even going to touch the "enemy of women" bit. But let's be real here, anon was dropping some very hard questions into ibbity's lap and doing it at least in a calm, reasoned manner.

I don't think there's any excuse for ibbity's reaction.

Re: Controversial opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I just think that tossing in something like "you're an enemy of women" somewhat invalidates the calm, reasonableness of the rest. I think it's really an either/or thing: an interaction is either polite or it's not, and if you're rude during part of that interaction, well...you're not being polite. You don't get to say something rotten just because you prefaced it with something good.

I can kind of understand ibbity's reaction, if it's true that she's gotten threats and been stalked in the past. However, I do agree that she overreacted, and she's also guilty of being very rude.

Re: Controversial opinions

[dethtoll]

I'll amend "polite" to "reasoned" because at the very least it wasn't couched in all-caps tumblr-style how dARE U GFSPJFL:SDFJL:JKF I CAN'T.

Basically both participants in that discussion were being nasty to each other, but ibbity absolutely gets the Holy Fuck Calm Down Award.

Re: Controversial opinions

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Bullshit. Anon doesn't get to pussyfoot around with pseudo-calm wording and tone but drop in "gee, sorry, but you ARE an enemy to all women" not once but twice and NOT get ripped a new one if ibbity wants. I'm about as pro-choice as it gets but FUCK that noise. It's behavior like that that's a reason I also, as a woman, refuse to identify myself with the feminist movement at this time. Until feminists collectively get their shit together and get control over the "toe the defined lines OR ELSE" contingents giving them a bad name, count me the fuck out.

Re: Controversial opinions

[dethtoll]

We'll call you.