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I don't think you can reclaim a piece of media. You can't turn Hogwarts into a special-needs school for wizards, or you can't turn characters trans or change their race. Those things are headcanon; it feels like a hollow victory to me to say you've reclaimed something that the author did wrong (according to you), while nothing's really changed. I don't understand how it doesn't get frustrating... and counterproductive, because these people continue to focus on something that's not going to change while they fail to support works that actually include the sort of things they want to read about.

I don't know - I think people have more or less successfully reclaimed Susan (from Narnia)'s fate with their short stories and essays.

That said, I agree that it feels hollow. I can say that in my headcanon the later seasons of BSG don't exist, to me, but in my heart I know they do. And that they're still as fucking awful as they were the first time I watched them and they still drag down the show.

I'm torn.

They haven't reclaimed shit. Nobody outside of their little circle knows or cares.

Uh... actually the rebuttals of Lewis' epilogue for Susan are incredibly famous and well-regarded by literary critics and genre fans alike, particularly "The Problem of Susan" by Neil Gaiman.

You either didn't read what I said or don't know what you're talking about.

In the case of Susan, we do at least have a piece of information that C.S. Lewis did say to someone upset over Susan's fate that she could eventually find her way back to Aslan.

Fanfics that "reclaim" her, IMO, are just telling versions of that possible story that Lewis never wrote.

Other canons however the issue is not so easily handwaved away, and people need to accept that sometimes their canon is not exactly what the want, and liking non-canon is not a bad thing.

I dunno if that example holds, because Susan is a character that's old enough that the way we see her is different from the way people who first read the story. We've put different values on femininity, and how much we agree with Lewis. But she's still fundamentally her; she's still a white British girl who went to Narnia.

(then again, I'm only vaguely familiar with Narnia and that controversy. Maybe I'm missing something)

The way we perceive characters and stories changes, that's inevitable, but radical change happens through revision-- the result is an offshoot of the original. Still, I don't think that's a process that can be sped-up, and the result will always be something that not everyone is going to be happy with, so people would keep reclaiming and it never ends

Peoples' trans-ness (for lack of a better word??) are very often not actually indicated in canon though?

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