[ SECRET POST #2689 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2689 ⌋

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Comments

[feotakahari]

It comes down to two things:

Some guys really, really cannot stand women who're feminine in a non-submissive way. They're fine with submissive feminine women, and surprisingly, they seem to be totally okay with masculine women, but women who're feminine in a socially active, status-conscious way really raise their hackles. (The only one I've seen try to explain it said that he "dated girls like that and barely escaped with my soul intact," and didn't elaborate.)

Some guys identify really, really strongly with the most pathetic male character in the cast, then rewrite him so he's not pathetic. (I can only assume this is the target audience for harem anime.) The character they align themselves with in MLP is Spike, and since Rarity does not want the hemi-peen, they want to "put her in her place." It's as awful as it sounds.

[(Anonymous)]

Err, really? You think male fans who don't like Rarity hate her because she doesn't want their dicks, and isn't submissive enough?

I mean, maybe there are some guys like that. But seriously, I'm a Rarity fan, and there are plenty of reasons that she might not be liked or not be as liked as her counterparts. Personal taste being among the top reasons. There are plenty of legitimate reason for a fan who is a guy to not be a hardcore Rarity fan, and not all of those reasons are misogynist rapist asshole douchebag.

[feotakahari]

There's a difference between disliking a character and ranting about how she's a "vapid bitch."

[(Anonymous)]

She is kind of a bitch though. At least compared to the other characters (and probably as a general standard in all of Ponyville)

Like that episode where she tried to lie her way out of attending Twilight's birthday, and never owned up to the lie at the end. Instead, she just appreciated how trusting her friends were of her (when they shouldn't have been).

I like that about her, granted. She's entertaining as fuck. But yeah, kind of a bitch. In fandom where everything is always exaggerated to one billion, that's not that offensive of an accusation.

[diet_poison]

I do not think you and her haters are using the word "bitch" the same way at all.

[(Anonymous)]

That would depend entirely on the "hater" in question. Since I believe this claim was made with a certain amount of hyperbole, and ridiculous generalization of fans (not to mention outrage that not everyone likes Rarity)

[(Anonymous)]

LMAO you really need to get out from under the rock you're hiding under. I have seen exactly what she is talking about and it's putting it lightly.

[(Anonymous)]

Lol okay sure anon. All men hate rarity becausre they wanna rape her into submission. Seems legite.

[(Anonymous)]

who's hyperbolic now? saying those hatets exist =/= "ALL MEN WANNA RAEP HER"

[(Anonymous)]

They never said all men???

[ozaline]

There are also women who dislike this character type. The diamond dogs episode was a little annoying for me because I thought there were other ways Rarity could have dealt with the situation other than weaponized whining.

Overall I like Rarity and other characters cut from the same mold, (like Sumire in Sakura Wars), but while I feel you do have a point, not everyone who calls a character like that a "bitch," (how I hate that word) is a straight male.

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh, that episode. Rarity is my no-holds-barred favorite, but that and the buffalo episode are the only two season ones that I refuse to rewatch.

[ozaline]

Between the two of them the Buffalo episode is a thousand times worse, but yeah Diamond dogs is my second least favorite S1 episode.

[otakugal15]

That episode was amazing. Nuff said.

[(Anonymous)]

Some guys really, really cannot stand women who're feminine in a non-submissive way.

This is true. I'm not in the MLP fandom (just watch the show), so I honestly don't know how much it applies to Rarity's hatedom, but I've certainly found that, in the world at large, there are a lot of people (of all genders, actually; the largest group with this issue that I've happened to encounter has been non-feminine women) who have trouble with the idea that a person can be feminine and non-submissive at the same time.

[(Anonymous)]

This is very interesting to think about. Submissive femininity isn't even trying to present a challenge, and most men know how to navigate dominant masculinity. But dominant femininity is a challenge on a mental playing field that isn't anything like the masculine one. I can see why it'd be the most intimidating out of the lot.

[(Anonymous)]

Spike's not pathetic!