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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-14 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2689 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2689 ⌋

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needled_ink_1975: A snarling cougar; colored pencil on paper (Default)

Re: A small question on what "Just for evil" means.

[personal profile] needled_ink_1975 2014-05-15 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Disney's evil Queen (Snow White's stepmother) is just wicked, evil, bad, and mean. There's no stated motivation for her to be evil. We're just expected to believe it.

That's evil for the sake of evil.

Mad Madam Mim (whom I adore) is a tricky evil-for-the-sake-of-evil character– she's bad because she just loves being bad. That's a motivation. Tricky, as I said.

Basically, if there's any stated motivation (i.e., this person became bad because...), then a character's evil has a cause and, generally, a purpose. They're complex villains and sometimes are antiheroes. Evil-for-the-sake-of-being-evil villains generally are not complex. They're just the Big Bad, and we're not meant to think more about them than that (and that the hero should kick their ass but good).

Re: A small question on what "Just for evil" means.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Snow White's stepmother's motivation was jealousy. She did her evil things because she wanted to be "fairest of them all." It's an example of an entirely bad motivation, but it what it is was pretty explicit.
needled_ink_1975: A snarling cougar; colored pencil on paper (Default)

Re: A small question on what "Just for evil" means.

[personal profile] needled_ink_1975 2014-05-15 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, jealousy was her motivation for evil deeds against Snow White, but we don't know why she was evil in the first place; we don't know why she learned 'the Dark Arts'; we don't know anything about her except that she's SW's EBIL stepmother. That makes her EftSoBE.
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Re: A small question on what "Just for evil" means.

[personal profile] icecheetah 2014-05-15 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Mad Madam Mim is literally the only thing I remember about the sword in the stone.

It's interesting that if a villains motive is literally "for evil", that puts them in a grey area.

needled_ink_1975: A snarling cougar; colored pencil on paper (Default)

Re: A small question on what "Just for evil" means.

[personal profile] needled_ink_1975 2014-05-15 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I've known a lot of people who've remembered her vividly, but couldn't for the life of them remember the movie's title. I watched the movie so many times as a kids that the VHS tape got stretched. I want the DVD– they don't stretch!.

I feel Mim's a grey-area-dweller because she outright states that she's bad cos it's awesome. That's somewhat rare.