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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-15 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2690 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2690 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[My Little Pony: Equestria Girls movie]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation/Reginald Barclay]


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[Dark Souls]


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[Call the Midwife]


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[The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim]


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[The Thing. Inception. EverymanHYBRID. Adventure Time]


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kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Question

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-15 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Was this on tumblr? Stay away from tumblr social justice.

To answer your question - no, it's bullshit.

Here's why - blackface has a very specific history in a very specific part of the world that gives it a connotation of racism (note also not all cultures would have the same knee-jerk reaction Americans do).

Drag is not the same because it does not have the same history, and it's cause is not to ridicule and show women as inferior creatures.

More so, while some drag queens are straight men, many more are gay and some are even trans. So, for many it is actually a way of expressing themselves.

Re: Question

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It was on Tumblr, but it was on one of the blogs I usually agree with, at least most of the time. I usually only follow the SJ blogs that I think get it right most of the time, not the out there ones that take things to far and read into everything.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Question

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-16 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen this floating around for a while.
sarillia: (Default)

Re: Question

[personal profile] sarillia 2014-05-16 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how to react to you saying that it's different for gay men. On the one hand, homophobia and misogyny are very connected and I'm sure that affects a lot of gay drag queens, but on the other, there are a lot of people who don't seem to understand that sexual orientation and gender identity and expression are completely different things. If someone is coming at this from a "drag queens are offensively mocking women" perspective then I don't really see how it would matter that some of them are gay.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Question

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-16 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
It's different in the sense that they have a different relationship/dynamic with women as there is no attraction there.Basically, they actually have less stake in mocking women that straight men often do (just look at straight male stand-up comedians).

Drag has also pretty much been part of the broader gay culture since pre-Stonewall.

And while sexual attraction =/= gender identity, there's a subset of gay men who are more effeminate, without considering themselves transgendered, though. They might to a certain level experiment with women's clothes and subvert gender stereotypes.

In the end, if you take out the issue of gender identity - a dress is just a dress. Some people just like dresses.
sarillia: (Default)

Re: Question

[personal profile] sarillia 2014-05-16 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Your first paragraph is interesting but I'm not sure I agree with it. I'll have to think about this more.

Re: Question

(Anonymous) 2014-05-16 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
They still have male privilege, though. Gay men can be just as sexist as straight men.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Question

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-16 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but that in itself is not inherently linked to drag performance. Anyone can be sexist - even women.