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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-15 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2690 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2690 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[My Little Pony: Equestria Girls movie]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation/Reginald Barclay]


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[Dark Souls]


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[Call the Midwife]


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[The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim]


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[The Thing. Inception. EverymanHYBRID. Adventure Time]


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erinptah: Madoka and Homura (madoka)

[personal profile] erinptah 2014-05-16 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Of the characters whose stories we see play out in full in the series, not a single one of them achieves things "just because they made a contract." If anything, they achieve things in spite of making contracts. So I don't see where the idea of "they're saying these historical figures only achieved things because they made a contract!" comes from.

Kyuubey even says (in the manga, I don't remember if this exact line was in the anime) that the best souls for contracting are the ones who are in positions of great power or historical influence. So Joan of Arc et al didn't do awesome things because they made contracts -- rather, the Incubators specifically sought out Joan of Arc et al for contracting, because of their internal characteristic awesomeness.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-16 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
This. I always thought that the implication was that if anything, their ultimate failure was due to making a contract, not that their achievements were because of it.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-16 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Well this just make it sound worse. Like the bad things that happened were their fault. Especially in the case of Anne Frank... it's pretty tasteless.

DA

(Anonymous) 2014-05-16 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
It's not like that. It's more that, the more hope you inspire, the more suffering you personally take on. It's a balance, and it's outright said, "Not everyone can handle that." If anything, it's a nod to how fucking GREAT these women were--that they didn't really just give in and it's implied that their Soul Gems were destroyed as opposed to them giving into despair and becoming witches.
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[personal profile] shadowwolf75 2014-05-16 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
This is how I have always seen those references, these ladies were badass enough on their own, they didn't even really need the little fuzzball's help. But they took it anyway, just to make damn sure their goals were seen through to the end.