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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-15 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2690 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2690 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[My Little Pony: Equestria Girls movie]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation/Reginald Barclay]


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[Dark Souls]


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[Call the Midwife]


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[The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim]


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[The Thing. Inception. EverymanHYBRID. Adventure Time]


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Re: Question

(Anonymous) 2014-05-16 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Minstrel shows were not trying to negotiate complicated notions of race or trying to establish an identity.

Sometimes they were, especially once the genre was established. Minstrelry was huge and like any entertainment juggernaut, it got complicated. It didn't get any less racist at any point, but it did sometimes get complicated.

So for example, because minstrel shows presented black people as inherently funny (and as harmless, extremely predictable types) "blacking up" became the culturally acceptable way for "respectable" whites to indulge in fantasies of leisure, sensuality, physical prowess, or whatever else was associated with "black culture" via the stock minstrel characters.

That didn't make it less racist (this isn't a defense of minstrel shows); it just made it a really, really racist form of trying on and performing an identity and stepping in and out of various roles, including gender roles, in a way that often felt "liberating" to the white performers. It's still mocking, of course -- but that's what made it feel "safe" and "fun" to white performers and audience members and the millions of people who bought "[racial slur] songs" in sheet music so they could play them at parties.

(this tl;dr comment is not meant to comment in any way on what drag shows are doing; sorry to ramble about minstrel shows [but obviously not sorry enough I guess])
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Re: Question

[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-05-16 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know that, that's super interesting! Seriously, thanks for posting that. It makes sense, I guess, that the mass popularity of the genre would have some kind of element beyond just racist humor, but I hadn't thought about it.

I still think (which I also think that you're saying) that the way that they're performing those identities is probably pretty different, and, I guess, works for different reasons? But it's definitely a different light on it.