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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-16 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2691 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2691 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I am a woman. I am a writer. I know Larry personally. And at the last convention we were both at, he was holding forth to a small group of people, whom I joined. He introduced me by saying "Oh, hey, everyone, this is [name redacted], she's awesome."

At another convention, he heard that one of my stories was on an editor's desk, and he walked up to that editor (completely unasked) and told him "You need to put her story on the top of the stack."

So, no, the narrative painting him as a horrible sexist whatever is stupid and ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
That story would be more credible if the post it was in were not anonymous.

[identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com 2014-05-17 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well, then, here you go.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you, that's better.

So why do you think he is pimping the misogynistic little zealot who is at best a middling writer?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, maybe because he actually... liked the story that Vox wrote? And separates the art from the artist? Which some people are capable o doing, and which we keep getting lectured about when it comes to rapist pieces of shit like, say, Roman Polanski.

I read the thing. It's not my cup of tea because I like more action than that in my stories, but were Vox's name not attached to it, I daresay it's the sort of plotless navel-gazing literary piece that the literai would generally slobber all over.

Go to his blog and ask him. Or, just read it, because I'm pretty sure he's answered that question.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
His story is that an Elf finds Jesus.

That is it, seriously.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Like I say: I didn't care for it. I wouldn't have nominated it. Too much navel-gazing, not enough Plot for my taste. Larry obviously did care for it and thus it made his ballot. Apparently a lot of other people really liked it too.

Also, Vox himself has a pretty huge audience on his own blog, and did his own campaigning.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I hate to break this to you, but horrible sexists aren't these one-note hate robots who are horrible to every single woman they meet. Most of them believe they like and respect women, and have a few women they believe are different (read: superior to) all the other women. That's how they can be okay with a specific woman, yet sneering and dismissive of the gender as a whole.

Fred Phelps had a whole family (including daughters!) who loved him and supported his cause. None of them would've described him as a horrible person, either. They would've also said that any accusations of him being a hateful bigot was ridiculous. It's a matter of perspective.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Except that's not what he does. He will call a fuckwit a fuckwit without regard to what gender, orientation, or race they are.

I for one applaud that.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
Just, he thinks that women and LGBTIQ folks are much more liable to be "fuckwits" than anything else, and that they are ruining sci-fi by oppreshun of the menz.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
[citation needed]

That is a lie and you are a liar

(Anonymous) 2014-05-18 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You have in-context quotes to back this up of course?

Of course you don't.

Re: That is a lie and you are a liar

(Anonymous) 2014-05-19 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm guessing the poster above thinks his fellow travelers are all fuckwits exactly like him.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Your one experience totally trumps all his publically expressed views.

Nope nope nope.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
What views? That check-box message fic without actual plot and characterization is the cancer killing SFF? That both men and women are guilty of writing it?

Also, I've had ongoing interactions with him over multiple years. They have always been positive. Seriously, the dude is a teddy bear in person.

And those would be?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-18 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
What are the "expressed views" that have your panties in a knot? Be specific.

"Does not like communism or communists" is not the same as "misogynist", no matter how many times you and your fellow travelers claim that it is.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
lol

he does not literally snarl and rave maniacally when presented with the existence of a woman, therefore he is not a sexist

i am glad that he was nice to you! i am happy that you had a positive experience. that is good.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, huh. He's never been a condescending dick to me like you just were.