[ SECRET POST #2692 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2692 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 070 secrets from Secret Submission Post #385.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Non-fandom secrets

[(Anonymous)]

This is why I don't believe that genderqueers/agenders/bigenders are a legit thing.

I know it's an unpopular opinion but to me transsexualism is a medical condition, a different mapping of your brain that produces extreme dysphoria and discomfort. Every MtF or FtM person I've met desired nothing more but be stealthy and transition to their true gender while flying under the radar while genderqueers are mostly people who cannot fathom that you don't have to adhere to gender roles all of the time and liking androgynous looks doesn't make you trans. This actually reinforces gender roles and trivializes the issues of people who were truly born in the wrong body.

Re: Non-fandom secrets

[feotakahari]

Every time someone posts this, I argue with it. I don't think I've ever changed anyone's mind. Is there any other queer person on FS who wants to argue with this? 'Cuz I'm just gonna give it a rest.

Re: Non-fandom secrets

[(Anonymous)]

That makes no sense. I can't even follow your logic well enough to tell you how and where you're wrong, it makes so little sense.

Re: Non-fandom secrets

[(Anonymous)]

DA, but, I can see that. "LOL OMG u GAIZ I DON'T LIKE WEARING DRESSES SO I CAN'T IDENTIFY AS FEMALE LOLOL" isn't the same as actually thinking you're a different gender.

Re: Non-fandom secrets

[(Anonymous)]

I understand what they're saying, I just think they've taken it too far.

There are people who think that they aren't male or that they aren't female simply because they don't fit into the social box. For example, I've always been something of a "tomboy," and according to some people out there, that means that I'm not actually female. But, see, I am female. I feel like a woman. I identify as a woman. I just don't like the things that I'm "supposed" to like. It's definitely a form of essentialism to hew so closely to social norms and roles that you see anyone who falls outside of them as belonging to a different gender.

That said, OP is wrong in the sense that some people don't necessarily feel they're in the wrong body, but they don't identify with the gender categories that are available, even when norms and roles are accounted for.

Re: Non-fandom secrets

[(Anonymous)]

It made sense to me.

Re: Non-fandom secrets

[(Anonymous)]

Somewhat repeating what I just said to someone else: I understand what you're going for, but I think you've taken it too far.

There are people who don't feel dysphoria to the extent that they see themselves as being in the wrong body but who still don't or can't identify with the available gender categories. This is even after accounting for gender norms and roles.

I think gender is much like a lot of other things in the sense that it's a spectrum. Our society sees it as a binary, however, which is why it comes across as so strange when someone doesn't quite fit.

Re: Non-fandom secrets

[(Anonymous)]

Bigender and agender I can get because of intersex people, but genderqueer/genderfluid? Nope. I can't see that as anything other than special snowflake "I'm not like all those other girls/boys" crap.