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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-19 07:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #2694 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2694 ⌋

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[General Hospital]


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[Homestuck, The Other Woman, Pacific Rim, Naruto, X-Men]


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[The Ear, the Eye and the Arm]


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[Warehouse 13]


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[Alton Brown and Anthony Bourdain]


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[YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of This World]


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[Magic: the Gathering]


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ketita: (Default)

Re: School Dress Codes

[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-20 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
We are talking pre-college, and in these schools parents are strongly discouraged from pushing their child to it if the child isn't suited to the school or doesn't want to be there. In addition, the children are interviewed separately from their parents to establish if they're a good fit.
I'm not saying that sometimes parents don't mess up and push children to institutes they don't want to be in, but generally the feel is that they're trying to keep the religious school for religious people who want to be there.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: School Dress Codes

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-20 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, to be completely honest, it sounds like your school is a major exception in that regard. Most religious schools don't have that kind of rigorous entry interview thing, and not all kids are happy to be going to a religious school, or any other private school for that matter.
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Re: School Dress Codes

[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-20 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
as far as I know, most religious schools in the area have similar policies.

In reality kids being pushed to attend a school they don't want to isn't actually the school's fault, and the school shouldn't have to change their policy based on parents forcing unwanted decisions on the child. Either way the problem there is with the family, not the school.

Also I should add, these schools aren't private, they're fully public schools.
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Re: School Dress Codes

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-20 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what your area is, but I think it's safe to say not all areas are like that.

I'm not saying private schools should change their policy because kids don't like it, but I'm saying it's completely fair for kids to resent a uniform for a school they didn't even want to go to. In that case yes, the main problem is with the parents.

You saying these schools are public actually changes it a lot. Were there other options for kids who didn't want to go to those schools to go somewhere else? Especially considering it's a religious school? (also now I'm curious to where you are from)
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Re: School Dress Codes

[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-20 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I never said that all schools are like this, I was purely talking about my own experience. This is how the system in Israel works.
There are public secular schools, public religious schools, and public arab schools. There is a "base curriculum" of certain subjects which all schools must teach in order to be considered public and get support from the government, but outside of that they have a certain amount of freedom in choosing which subjects to teach and how much of an emphasis to put on them.

The high school diploma is given based on matriculation, and you can matriculate in almost all subjects, including the religious ones, in government-overseen examinations.

For homeschooling and such, there is also the possibility of doing "external" examinations, meaning matriculating without going to school, so you get a high school diploma without having to actually go to school.
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Re: School Dress Codes

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-21 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, ok. I got the impression from your first comment that you were defending uniforms in general based on your experiences. Sorry, I think I misread it.

Thanks for the explanation :)
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Re: School Dress Codes

[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-21 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I do personally think that people make a much bigger deal over uniforms than necessary, and that wearing clothes that don't reflect you for a few hours a day is not the worst thing ever. I think it stems from a culture that increasingly demands to be able to do what I want when I want otherwise I am oppressed, and I disagree with this fundamentally.

I can accept that other people feel differently on the subject.
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Re: School Dress Codes

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-21 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think anyone is saying that you're "oppressed" for having to wear a uniform...at least nobody here.

I'm kind of confused now as to whether that was ultimately your point, or not.