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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-20 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2695 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I agree but sometimes it seems like the first thing people say about anything that's positive about larger sized people is "But the health!!!1" whereas whenever extreme skinniness is advocated (which it still pretty much is...everywhere), people barely give a shit about the health risks of that. And it's not a fake thing that this is hurting a LOT of young women who are trying at any cost to be skinny.

A lot of people seem to have a double standard here. "Oh noes, enabling fatness, the health, that's what we care about," whereas often health issues from being too thin are just ignored like, "Oh, they should know better than to try to look like the photoshopped magazines, it's their own fault for being stupid."

It's an issue. That's all I'm saying: not saying you're doing it. Just had to get that out.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm fairly thin but nowhere near healthy.

I wish there was most an emphasis on being healthy, eating right, and exercising than being the right weight.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hell yes. Thank you for getting what I'm saying! :) If people cared more about health than looks things would be a lot better.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-05-21 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I support the version of Health at Every Size that I'm most familiar with. HAES gets shit on but I can never tell whether people are actually responding to the extremists or basing their arguments on stereotypes. I know there are people using the same label for things I don't support, but that's true of Christianity and Feminism too and I still use those terms for myself. My interpretation of HAES (and one that I talk about with others who share similar opinions) is that the important thing is to stick to healthy habits rather than focusing on what size you are. That means that someone who is overweight should be looking for safe exercise and diet regimens instead of putting themselves in danger with extreme diets that will make them thin at the expense of their health, and that means that thin people should also be focusing on healthy habits rather than eating junk and sticking to a sedentary lifestyle just because their genetics make them able to do so while staying thin.

But I think this whole thing should come with a caveat that it's your body and you can treat it however you want. I don't think there is any kind of moral obligation to be healthy. I just wish people would stop pretending they care about health when really they care about people being thin, and that they would think about what focusing on health would actually look like.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
I really agree with the thin people thing. I'm naturally thin - my whole family is. I can sit around and eat junk and I don't gain a pound. Some of it is I'm a vegetarian, so I'm not taking in the hormones and fats you get in meat, but mostly it's random genetic luck. Nobody has ever asked me about my health like they do with fat people because I'm thin, but man, I know I am unfit. There really is a double standard there for 'health' between fat and thin people.
And I know being too overweight has its own health risks - even if it doesn't cause problems, it can exacerbate them. But the stigma against being fat has led to this societal mentality of fat=unhealthy and unfit, thin=healthy and fit. Which simply isn't true. I agree that things would be a LOT better if health actually was the focus, rather than weight.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ditto, I'm skinny and massively unfit. I don't watch what I eat or exercise, I just have a fast metabolism.

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[personal profile] solticisekf 2014-05-21 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Media is terrible on this account. I can't disagree with anything you've wrote, although online I see a lot too!skinny discussion, mostly on Tumblr. I didn't think you were saying anything negative to me but thank you for clarifying, nonnie.